[MlMt] How to set columns and sort for all list views?

[Quinn Comendant]

Thanks for the reminder, Henry. I've been using a test build from a few 
weeks ago. I'll set reminders to update every week. I read the recent 
release notes, but didn't see any mention of improvements related to 
columns and sort configuration; is there a specific new feature you 
think would help me in a recent build?

Very best regards,
Quinn


On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:10, Henry Seiden wrote:

> Quinn,
>
> Don’t know if you’re interested, but I’m using the developer 
> build, on advice from Benny. I’m aware that sorting and views are 
> fluid aspects of MailMate, you should know that Develop Builds are 
> available by holding down option key when checking the menu: Mailmate. 
> The “Check for Update” changes to “Test Build”. Benny is much 
> more responsive to making changes on that Build. OTOH, it may be less 
> to your liking with the new features he’s testing out there.
>
> Just thought you might want to know.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Henry Seiden
>
> Techworks Pro Co.
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>
> On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>
>> I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns 
>> and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the 
>> MailMate preferences, under `MmMailboxRelatedStates`, where *each 
>> view has its own column settings*. This shows clearly that this is a 
>> feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled 
>> this and found some old threads 
>> [[1]](https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox)[[2]](https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html) 
>> on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this 
>> preference key by running the following `defaults` command in the 
>> terminal, then re-configure my default view:
>>
>>     defaults delete com.freron.MailMate MmMailboxRelatedStates
>>
>> After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP 
>> account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default 
>> Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam 
>> folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied.
>>
>> However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the 
>> same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to 
>> Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with 
>> newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages 
>> at the top for all views, everywhere, always?
>>
>> Quinn
>>
>>
>> On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>
>>> On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote:
>>>
>>>> What version of MMt are you using?
>>>
>>> I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP.
>>>
>>> I can reproduce this issue as follows:
>>>
>>> 1. Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left 
>>> sidebar.
>>> 2. Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column 
>>> header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column.
>>> 3. Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns".
>>> 4. Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar).
>>> 5. The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. 
>>> Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default 
>>> Columns" option is disabled.
>>>
>>> I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method 
>>> to have my column settings apply to all folders.
>>>
>>> Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each 
>>> folder.
>>>
>>> I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with 
>>> MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them 
>>> for each folder individually.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Quinn
>>>
>>> On 31 Dec 2021, at 19:36, Quinn Comendant wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely 
>>>> in love with it.
>>>>
>>>> I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of 
>>>> the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, 
>>>> or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From user at example.com”, the 
>>>> columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to 
>>>> re-configure the columns and sort.
>>>>
>>>> I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date 
>>>> Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the 
>>>> newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest 
>>>> message is at the top.
>>>>
>>>> I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use 
>>>> as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those 
>>>> defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views.
>>>>
>>>> How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views 
>>>> everywhere, forever? 🥺
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>>
>>>> Quinn
>
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