[MlMt] Junk and Not Junk
Bill Cole
mmlist-20120120 at billmail.scconsult.com
Thu May 6 13:22:53 EDT 2021
On 2021-05-06 at 12:36:31 UTC-0400 (Thu, 06 May 2021 17:36:31 +0100)
Martin S Taylor <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:
> Well it *is* on my mail server, obviously. But isn't 'Junk' and 'Not
> Junk' just two sides of the same flag?
Nope. Related but independent flags, generally. See
https://www.iana.org/assignments/imap-jmap-keywords/notjunk/notjunk-template
and
https://www.iana.org/assignments/imap-jmap-keywords/junk/junk-template
> How can both be ticked at the same time?
There can be multiple entities (server-side filters, client-side
filters, & user) that can in principle set the IMAP $Junk and/or
$NotJunk flags and anything that sets one of them SHOULD make sure the
other is unset. Also of note: no one SHOULD send spam and no spam filter
SHOULD ever misjudge the spamminess of a message...
In other words: you probably have 2 different things capable of marking
messages as Junk or NotJunk, and they disagreed. Whichever tool acted
last arguably is a broken implementation because it should either treat
the prior determination (by something/someone else) as dispositive and
not set a conflicting flag OR consider itself authoritative (i.e. if you
tell MM or another client to mark a message "Not Junk") and clear the
conflicting flag OR consider the conflict to be a sign of uncertainty
and clear both. The registered definitions of the flags (see above)
states that mail with "$Junk AND $NotJunk" set should be treated as
having neither flag set. Conceptually,
Note that some IMAP-like mail systems (e.g. GMail) partially conflate
flags and mailboxes, confusing the issue further.
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