[MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

[Antonio Leding]

Ahhh - I believe that regardless of what the SpamSieve setting is, that 
when image checking is enabled, it will always check for spam.  I could 
be mis-recollecting here but either way, I will do some digging to see 
if I can find a reference about this…

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On 25 Jul 2021, at 17:15, Ralph Alvy wrote:

> I have no Inbox rules at all. Here are the Sieve relevant lines in the 
> raw message:
>
> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 3.0
> X-Spam-known-sender: no
> X-Spam-sender-reputation: 500 (none)
> X-Spam-score: 7.2
> X-Spam-hits: HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.248, 
> HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST 0.001,
>   HTML_MESSAGE 0.001, ME_HAS_VSSU 0.001, ME_SENDERREP_NEUTRAL 0.001,
>   RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001, SPF_PASS -0.001,
>   URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_SPAM 7, LANGUAGES en, BAYES_USED none, SA_VERSION 
> 3.4.2
> X-Spam-source: IP='192.40.173.99', 
> Host='mailer99.gate173.rs.smtp.com', Country='US',
>   FromHeader='com', MailFrom='com'
> X-Spam-charsets: plain='utf-8', html='utf-8'
>
> I also have image blocking check for images in Junk Folder, if that's 
> relevant. I can't see how it is. See image;
>
> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 4:47 PM, Antonio Leding wrote:
>> Well, with SpamSieve enabled, you can always re-eval the spam score 
>> on any message. I’m not sure if this menu option still exists after 
>> disabling SpamSieve but I believe it does.
>>
>> That aside, you can always check for rules on the Inbox - are there 
>> any there?
>>
>> I did a quick mailer archive search and per Benny (MlMt’s author), 
>> the only 2 ways messages get moved to Junk are via SpamSieve and 
>> Rules - no other mechanism exists…
>>
>>
>> On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:43, Ralph Alvy wrote:
>>
>>
>>> I already moved it out of the Junk folder, so its Sieve score isn't 
>>> seen and it's marked as No Junk. I'll do as you say the next time it 
>>> happens before moving it out of the folder.
>>>
>>> On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:30, Antonio Leding wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Are you sure it’s being moved by SpamSieve? For example, any 
>>>> rules possibly in effect?
>>>>
>>>> Find a message in the Junk folder and right-click to check its spam 
>>>> state
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Jul 2021, at 16:25, Ralph Alvy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> I have SpamSieve unchecked in the Security window. Why does 
>>>>> Mailmate place email in its Junk folder occasionally?
>>>>>
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