[MlMt] Utterly baffled by Mailing Lists

Marc ARC MailMate at arcict.com
Fri Apr 9 12:29:29 EDT 2021


Most welcome !

On 9 Apr 2021, at 6:30, Paul Atlan wrote:

> Ha!
> It's the "new mail" thing that got me.
> I thought I could use "Apply rules on selected messages" even on the 
> inbox.
> Works like a charm.
>
> I new there would be an elegant solution somewhere!
> Thanks again for your time.
> P.
>
> On 8 Apr 2021, at 20:02, Marc ARC wrote:
>
>> Paul,
>>
>> My Bad ( I meant by Source the source the mail comes from so the From 
>> for the rest of us ;-) )
>>
>> Defined on the Inbox
>> • If From ( here you can get finer with; address, . .  ) is in 
>> Marketing
>> • Move to whatever you want
>>
>> Eventually you can check the condition you use with a smart mailbox.
>> So you see if it gets you the mail you want and also allows you to 
>> clean out not moved mail
>>
>> On the inbox the rule will only be triggered when new mail comes in. 
>> You can simulate this by dragging a mail from another mailbox to the 
>> inbox
>>
>> Hope this works now for you
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>>
>> Marc
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 8 Apr 2021, at 17:47, Paul Atlan wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry,
>>> I must be an idiot.
>>>
>>> I'm working on my IMAP Inbox.
>>> I've set up an IMAP box called Newsletters next to it.
>>>
>>> I've set up the following rule on the IMAP Inbox:
>>> ```
>>> All of the following are true:
>>>   Source is in Newsletters Source
>>> ---
>>> Move to Mailbox Newsletters
>>> ```
>>>
>>> But for the life of me I can't get it to work. I've tried using 
>>> various variations on Source (Source / No specifier , Source / 
>>> Mailto) and even the From field (From / No specifier, From / User ) 
>>> ... to no avail.
>>>
>>> Would you have any idea about what I did wrong?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Paul.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4 Apr 2021, at 13:54, Marc ARC wrote:
>>>
>>>> Paul,
>>>>
>>>> What I use to filter out (marketing)mailing lists from my inbox is 
>>>> the following:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I defined a Marketing mailbox where I drop a (the first?) mail from 
>>>> that source
>>>>
>>>> I defined a condition based rule on my inbox:
>>>> - if source is in Marketing mailbox
>>>> - then move to Marketing mailbox ( or Auto_Marketing mailbox° )
>>>>
>>>> By setting up submailboxes (on the sender) you can then easily see 
>>>> what is related to which list/sender.
>>>>
>>>> Or on the marketing mailbox you can setup a definition based rule 
>>>> to move the mails to other mailboxes
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marc
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 26 Mar 2021, at 10:28, Paul Atlan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I’m trying to sort my mailing lists into something halfway 
>>>>> manageable and readable.
>>>>> If I use the “out of the box” Mailing List mailbox, with the 
>>>>> following settings:
>>>>> Sort for unique values of List-id > description
>>>>> And name mailboxes as:
>>>>> ${list-id.description:${subject.blob:?${subject.blob:/capitalize}:${list-id.identifier.final-level}}}
>>>>> I get a baffling array of names such as:
>>>>>  * 420a598457b46e0aa26a7a673mc list
>>>>>  * 15marches.substack.com
>>>>>  * 245.44880.info.alternatives-economiques.fr
>>>>>  * 245.44922.info.alternatives-economiques.fr
>>>>>
>>>>> It seems some people use the list-id to name their lists, others 
>>>>> an identifier, others yet a url ….
>>>>> And basically, whatever item I choose to sort by, or rename by, 
>>>>> I’m never going to get a proper list of names.
>>>>> I’ve tried to rename some of the lists, which would work except 
>>>>> … some list managers seem to change list-id’s every few mails, 
>>>>> so I have mailing lists spread over many separate mailboxes …
>>>>>
>>>>> I’ve started building rules to identify and tag each and every 
>>>>> newsletter, but this is brittle (the ux being what it is, it’s 
>>>>> difficult to have rules with more than 4 or 5 conditions, so 
>>>>> I’ve spread out the newsletters over multiple rules), any new 
>>>>> newsletter needs to go through a process….
>>>>>
>>>>> I can’t imagine, with the number of power users using MailMate, 
>>>>> that there aren’t some interesting solutions around …
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul.
>>>>
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