[MlMt] Utterly baffled by Mailing Lists

Paul Atlan paulatlan at fastmail.fm
Fri Apr 9 00:30:20 EDT 2021


Ha!
It's the "new mail" thing that got me.
I thought I could use "Apply rules on selected messages" even on the 
inbox.
Works like a charm.

I new there would be an elegant solution somewhere!
Thanks again for your time.
P.

On 8 Apr 2021, at 20:02, Marc ARC wrote:

> Paul,
>
> My Bad ( I meant by Source the source the mail comes from so the From 
> for the rest of us ;-) )
>
> Defined on the Inbox
> • If From ( here you can get finer with; address, . .  ) is in 
> Marketing
> • Move to whatever you want
>
> Eventually you can check the condition you use with a smart mailbox.
> So you see if it gets you the mail you want and also allows you to 
> clean out not moved mail
>
> On the inbox the rule will only be triggered when new mail comes in. 
> You can simulate this by dragging a mail from another mailbox to the 
> inbox
>
> Hope this works now for you
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Marc
>
>
>
>
> On 8 Apr 2021, at 17:47, Paul Atlan wrote:
>
>> Sorry,
>> I must be an idiot.
>>
>> I'm working on my IMAP Inbox.
>> I've set up an IMAP box called Newsletters next to it.
>>
>> I've set up the following rule on the IMAP Inbox:
>> ```
>> All of the following are true:
>>   Source is in Newsletters Source
>> ---
>> Move to Mailbox Newsletters
>> ```
>>
>> But for the life of me I can't get it to work. I've tried using 
>> various variations on Source (Source / No specifier , Source / 
>> Mailto) and even the From field (From / No specifier, From / User ) 
>> ... to no avail.
>>
>> Would you have any idea about what I did wrong?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Paul.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 Apr 2021, at 13:54, Marc ARC wrote:
>>
>>> Paul,
>>>
>>> What I use to filter out (marketing)mailing lists from my inbox is 
>>> the following:
>>>
>>>
>>> I defined a Marketing mailbox where I drop a (the first?) mail from 
>>> that source
>>>
>>> I defined a condition based rule on my inbox:
>>> - if source is in Marketing mailbox
>>> - then move to Marketing mailbox ( or Auto_Marketing mailbox° )
>>>
>>> By setting up submailboxes (on the sender) you can then easily see 
>>> what is related to which list/sender.
>>>
>>> Or on the marketing mailbox you can setup a definition based rule to 
>>> move the mails to other mailboxes
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>>
>>> Marc
>>>
>>>
>>> On 26 Mar 2021, at 10:28, Paul Atlan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I’m trying to sort my mailing lists into something halfway 
>>>> manageable and readable.
>>>> If I use the “out of the box” Mailing List mailbox, with the 
>>>> following settings:
>>>> Sort for unique values of List-id > description
>>>> And name mailboxes as:
>>>> ${list-id.description:${subject.blob:?${subject.blob:/capitalize}:${list-id.identifier.final-level}}}
>>>> I get a baffling array of names such as:
>>>>  * 420a598457b46e0aa26a7a673mc list
>>>>  * 15marches.substack.com
>>>>  * 245.44880.info.alternatives-economiques.fr
>>>>  * 245.44922.info.alternatives-economiques.fr
>>>>
>>>> It seems some people use the list-id to name their lists, others an 
>>>> identifier, others yet a url ….
>>>> And basically, whatever item I choose to sort by, or rename by, 
>>>> I’m never going to get a proper list of names.
>>>> I’ve tried to rename some of the lists, which would work except 
>>>> … some list managers seem to change list-id’s every few mails, 
>>>> so I have mailing lists spread over many separate mailboxes …
>>>>
>>>> I’ve started building rules to identify and tag each and every 
>>>> newsletter, but this is brittle (the ux being what it is, it’s 
>>>> difficult to have rules with more than 4 or 5 conditions, so I’ve 
>>>> spread out the newsletters over multiple rules), any new newsletter 
>>>> needs to go through a process….
>>>>
>>>> I can’t imagine, with the number of power users using MailMate, 
>>>> that there aren’t some interesting solutions around …
>>>>
>>>> Paul.
>>>
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