[MlMt] Using Gmail

[Gary Hull]

My impression is that MailMate doesn't deal well with Gmail by design, 
and there's no plan to natively support Gmail. MailMate is a 
standards-based e-mail client that follows the various IMAP RFCs. Gmail 
uses an undocumented proprietary fork/hack of IMAP ("GIMAP"). There's 
only one developer for MailMate, and he has to prioritize. In addition, 
Google could change things at any time and break MailMate, and given the 
rumors that the results of the Sparrow acquisition are about to bear 
fruit, it seems like it's in Google's interest to "encourage" Gmail 
users to migrate to Google's own PC-side client, rather than use other 
clients, so if, oops!, stuff "accidentally" starts to break in other 
clients that try to support GIMAP, hey, that's the way the cookie 
crumbles.

However, in the MailMate documentation there are hacks given for those 
who must use Gmail, the first of which is "Don't use labels," the second 
of which is "If you do you use labels use one and only one label for 
every each and every e-mail," and the third of which is "If you must use 
labels as tags and put more than one on each e-mail, get used to a lot 
of duplicated e-mails, because GIMAP presents labels as separate folders 
to connecting IMAP clients."

On 16 May 2014, at 16:28, Alasdair Muckart wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> For various reasons I've had to migrate all of my email out of the 
> 'normal' (courier) IMAP server I was using over to Google (apps for 
> business). 
>
> The current documentation seems to indicate that MM still doesn't deal 
> too well with Gmail and labels, and with my current setup I really 
> need the labels in Gmail.
>
> For the moment I'm using Airmail which is nice and fast and seems to 
> handle gmails quirks Ok, but doesn't locally cache mail and is having 
> some issues actually finding all 270-odd thousand messages I have.
>
> I'd very much like to keep using MailMate, so I'm interested in what 
> the options are for setting it up with Gmail in a way that'll allow me 
> to keep my label setup. 
>
> Thanks. 
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