[MlMt] Using Gmail

[Alasdair Muckart]

Thanks Gary,

I completely understand the design decisions behind MailMate, and Google's strange not-quite-IMAP implementation. The reality though is that Gmail (and GIMAP) actually work *really* well, and recent comments made me wonder if there was more label-compatibility coming in MM. 

On 16 May 2014 at 8:13:44 pm, Gary Hull (yh82d7dfu at yandex.com) wrote:
> My impression is that MailMate doesn't deal well with Gmail by design,
> and there's no plan to natively support Gmail. MailMate is a
> standards-based e-mail client that follows the various IMAP RFCs. Gmail
> uses an undocumented proprietary fork/hack of IMAP ("GIMAP"). There's
> only one developer for MailMate, and he has to prioritize. In addition,
> Google could change things at any time and break MailMate, and given the
> rumors that the results of the Sparrow acquisition are about to bear
> fruit, it seems like it's in Google's interest to "encourage" Gmail
> users to migrate to Google's own PC-side client, rather than use other
> clients, so if, oops!, stuff "accidentally" starts to break in other
> clients that try to support GIMAP, hey, that's the way the cookie
> crumbles.
>  
> However, in the MailMate documentation there are hacks given for those
> who must use Gmail, the first of which is "Don't use labels," the second
> of which is "If you do you use labels use one and only one label for
> every each and every e-mail," and the third of which is "If you must use
> labels as tags and put more than one on each e-mail, get used to a lot
> of duplicated e-mails, because GIMAP presents labels as separate folders
> to connecting IMAP clients."
>  
> On 16 May 2014, at 16:28, Alasdair Muckart wrote:
>  
> > Hi all,
> >
> > For various reasons I've had to migrate all of my email out of the
> > 'normal' (courier) IMAP server I was using over to Google (apps for
> > business).
> >
> > The current documentation seems to indicate that MM still doesn't deal
> > too well with Gmail and labels, and with my current setup I really
> > need the labels in Gmail.
> >
> > For the moment I'm using Airmail which is nice and fast and seems to
> > handle gmails quirks Ok, but doesn't locally cache mail and is having
> > some issues actually finding all 270-odd thousand messages I have.
> >
> > I'd very much like to keep using MailMate, so I'm interested in what
> > the options are for setting it up with Gmail in a way that'll allow me
> > to keep my label setup.
> >
> > Thanks.
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Alasdair Muckart | William de Wyke | http://wherearetheelves.net
"There is hardly anything in the world that some man cannot make a little worse
and sell a little cheaper, and the people who consider price only are this man's
lawful prey." - John Ruskin, 1819-1900.