[MlMt] Some questions about MailMate (am testing it now)

[Doug Lerner]

Thanks for the detailed answers!

Regards,

Dogu


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 12:30 AM, Benny Kjær Nielsen <mailinglist at freron.com
> wrote:

> On 23 Dec 2013, at 3:23, Doug Lerner wrote:
>
> These are good questions and I'll do my best to answer them clearly.
>
>
>    1. Does MailMate support conversations, as in fully expanded
>    conversation views (not just a list of threads)?
>
>  No.
>
>
>    1. Since using MailPlane I have gotten to love love love the ability
>    to multiple-label items. Is that possible in MailMate?
>
>  Yes, in MailMate they are named tags and they work with most IMAP
> servers. See the “Tags” preferences pane.
>
> If so, do they sync with Gmail labels?
>
> I recently implemented support for this. It is possible to map tags to
> Gmail labels (in the Tags preferences pane). Doing this means that MailMate
> is *not* going to fetch the corresponding IMAP mailbox. Instead the
> messages (which has to be present in some other mailbox) have tags instead.
>
> If you want smart mailboxes to match the tags/labels then you currently
> have to setup these manually.
>
>
>    1. I also really really like labeling, moving and "go to" shortcuts in
>    MailPlane. For example, I can type "v" followed by however many letters I
>    need to find the unique characters of a label and when I select it it gets
>    archived in the right folder/label. Same with "g" (go to) and "l" label -
>    which is great for adding multiple labels, and even creating new labels on
>    the fly. Is that possible in MailMate?
>
>  This would be the interface opened when hitting 'T'. Also, if smart
> mailboxes are created then you can use ⌘T to go to them. You cannot “move”
> to these mailboxes (⌥⌘T), but that could perhaps be a feature request (the
> future rules system might also allow setting up such actions manually).
>
>
>    1. If multiple labels are possible, how are multiple-labeled messages
>    supposed to appear in iOS Mail? If something is multiple-labeled, I can see
>    it in the multiple folders in MailPlane and Gmail, but in iOS Mail I don't
>    see many of the messages in the iOS IMAP folders.
>
>  I would expect iOS Mail to show those messages in the Gmail label
> mailboxes. Just like MailMate does if not mapping to tags.
>
> Instead I am often only
> only able to find some mails I was looking for in "All Mail".l How would
> that work in MailMate?
>
> Messages only present in All Mail are not fetched by default in MailMate.
> This is because it would lead to duplicates in the past. I improved this
> recently<http://blog.freron.com/2013/mavericks-gmail-apple-mail-and-mailmate/>,
> but you are going to have some performance issues with that if you have
> many tens of thousands of messages. This is why it's still not fetched by
> MailMate by default. I'm going to look into this eventually, but I'm not
> yet sure whether MailMate or Gmail is to blame. Probably both.
>
> To fetch All Mail you need to “Edit ▸ IMAP Account ▸ …”, then “Edit
> Subscriptions”, and finally mark “All Mail” as subscribed.
>
>
>    1. Somebody told me that multiple-labeled mails are actually
>    duplicated in MailMate, rather than using references or "smart folders." Is
>    that true?
>
>  It's true if not using the Gmail labels feature described above (mapping
> to tags). And just to be clear: The problem is that Gmail duplicates the
> messages over IMAP. When an email client doesn't store duplicates then it's
> because the email client has a workaround implemented specifically to
> handle Google's alternative implementation of IMAP. I know this distinction
> doesn't really matter in practice :-)
>
> --
> Benny
>
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