[MlMt] CORRECTED:"connected" option for synchonization is greyed out

[Bill Cole]

On 2024-10-04 at 10:05:28 UTC-0400 (Fri, 4 Oct 2024 10:05:28 -0400)
Ken Pope <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:

> Thank you for responding. It is my regular inbox, not a Smart Mailbox.

Clarifying:

If it is the Inbox listed in the "Mailboxes" list in the top part of the 
left sidebar, that's a Smart Mailbox aggregating the Inbox of each of 
your accounts. It has submailboxes for each account.

You can only set synch schedules in the "Sources" list in the bottom 
section of the left sidebar mailbox list. I don't know of anything which 
will disable the synch choices for those.

> You wrote, "Smart Mailboxes are updated live every time their 
> source(s) change." Does this mean if I can create a Smart Mailbox that 
> receives all my incoming mail from the server, it will download new 
> mail as soon as it appears on the server. If I'm right about that, can 
> anyone tell me how to create a Smart Mailbox so that it immediately 
> downloads into the Smart Mailbox as soon as it appears on the server?

I am unclear on what you mean exactly...

This is my working understanding of how MM operates:

All retrieval of mail is done based on the schedules for the IMAP 
Sources, which may just be the "standard" ones like INBOX, Trash, and 
Sent Items. You may only have one account and only receive new messages 
into the INBOX source. That's the base state of an IMAP account, which 
can get more complex if you have server-side rules or filters. This is 
why in most cases you only keep the INBOX in a "Connected" state, as any 
change to other source mailboxes in an account are initiated by the 
client.

A Smart Mailbox (anything in the top "Mailboxes" section of the left 
sidebar list) is re-evaluated to determine its contents every time a new 
message is added to any of its Source mailboxes, and if that indicates 
new messages in the Smart Mailbox, the Rules attached to that Smart 
Mailbox are run against those messages.

If you set the schedule of your Inbox (in the Sources list) to 
"Connected" then you should see messages appear immediately when they 
arrive at the server, because MM will download them when it is notified 
on that idling connection. They will show up in both the aggregate Inbox 
in the Mailboxes list and in the INBOX source under the account name in 
the Sources list.

Note that some IMAP servers don't support the IDLE command that is used 
to keep an open connection waiting for new message notifications and so 
cannot be set to "Connected." Others may delay notifications for up to a 
minute so as to avoid sending rapid-fire notices.


> Thanks to this list for your invaluable help whenever I run into a 
> wall.
> Ken
>
> On Oct 4 2024, at 8:32 am, Bill Cole 
> <mmlist-20120120 at billmail.scconsult.com> wrote:
>> On 2024-10-04 at 06:22:22 UTC-0400 (Fri, 04 Oct 2024 06:22:22 -0400)
>> Ken Pope <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
>> is rumored to have said:
>>
>>
>>> In the message below, I accidentally typed “continuous” instead 
>>> of “connected.”
>>> I’m sorry for the error and the extra mail.
>>> I’m running MailMate Version 1.13.2 (5673) on a 16-inch MacBook 
>>> Pro running Sequoia 15.0.
>>> I want to change my synchronization schedule to continuous, but when 
>>> I go to the synchronization schedule setting, all the options (e.g., 
>>> continuous, 5 minutes) are greyed out.
>>> Can anyone help me with this problem?
>> Are you looking at a Smart Mailbox or an IMAP Source Mailbox?
>>
>> Only IMAP sources have any synch schedule setting. Smart Mailboxes 
>> are updated live every time their source(s) change.
>>
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