[MlMt] Threads and Sent Messages

[devynosborne at gmail.com]

Hi Glenn,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate the help! I don’t tend to move 
messages, though I do live in threads. It sounds this will get me there.

A few questions occurred to me since writing yesterday:

1. In recent years, I’ve relied heavily on Smart Folders in Apple Mail 
for organization. Will threads appear properly in MM’s Smart Folders?

2. How does this affect Gmail’s organization (or lack thereof)? (I 
mainly use Gmail, though do intend to move more to my custom domain, 
currently hosted with Dreamhost.)

3. Does this help to see threads when searching? As it is now when I 
search for, say, “threads f glenn” it displays your single email 
alone. If I right-click Find Messages > Related to "Threads and Sent 
Messages”, it still shows just your one email. If I right-click Go to 
Source, MM opens a new window, but still shows just your email. Once the 
preference is enabled, would any of these views show this thread? Or is 
there another method that I am missing? Searching is a big part of my 
email experience, and the ability to get to a thread through search is 
pretty critical.

Thanks!

Devyn




On 10 Jan 2024, at 20:22, Glenn Parker wrote:

> Devyn,
>
> I think you and I have similar mail browsing styles. I have enabled 
> the preference to store sent messages with their replies, because I 
> have a bunch of distinct IMAP folders for various parts of my email 
> universe. I want to be able to browse the full set of messages for one 
> category, and easily view the full thread of a conversation.
>
> I rarely let messages stay in the Sent folder. Instead, I move them 
> manually to the right folder as needed, i.e., when they are initiating 
> a new thread.
>
> In my experience, there’s no real downside. You may want to adjust 
> how your auto-completion works by creating a new smart folder that 
> contains all the messages you have sent. Using that folder in the 
> Preferences under Composer -> Auto-Completion Sources -> Recipient 
> Headers will give you the same (actually better, IMHO) functionality 
> than the default configuration.
>
> On 10 Jan 2024, at 14:41, devynosborne at gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Hello!
>>
>> MaiMate newbie here again, this time with a question about the 
>> [hidden](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/hidden_preferences) 
>> [preference](https://freron.lighthouseapp.com/projects/58672/tickets/213) 
>> to store a sent message with the message to which it is a reply. 
>> I’m a little uncertain if this will do what I want, without adverse 
>> affects that I haven’t considered.
>>
>> Basically, I always want to see the total thread, no matter how I get 
>> to the individual message.
>>
>> As it is now, in my initial poking around MM, the messages in threads 
>> are mostly shown separately (eg, in Inbox and Sent Messages). The 
>> only place I see a complete thread is in All Messages. In my 
>> day-to-day, if I look in my Inbox or even Sent, I want to see the 
>> thread, so 1) I know that I did reply, 2) I can refer to what I and 
>> others wrote, and 3) easily reply again if I need to pester somebody 
>> about my last unanswered reply.  :-)
>>
>> Is this the right setting?
>>
>> What is the argument to *not* use this? I guess I’m so used to 
>> organizing by thread (which I have turned on in MM), it’s hard for 
>> me to imagine emails otherwise.
>>
>>
>> I’m also unclear about the address completion setting. Does that 
>> just mean that MM may not have access to all previously used 
>> addresses in order to suggest them again? I don’t think that’s so 
>> critical, as I mostly email people in my Contacts.
>>
>> Last, I’m also unclear on this setting:
>>> The same can be done with the following preference which completely 
>>> changes what is shown in the “Sent Messages” standard mailbox. 
>>> This is convenient if sent messages are not kept in dedicated 
>>> mailboxes:
>>>
>>> defaults write com.freron.MailMate MmSentMailbox -string 
>>> 8F9C1062-E4F8-4949-B5DC-BAB7CDEC4110
>>>
>>> The value given should be the UUID of a mailbox. The UUID can be 
>>> copied to the pasteboard using “Edit ▸ Copy” after selecting a 
>>> mailbox.
>>
>> I guess I use what’s called the “Sent Messages” standard 
>> mailbox. That seems to me to be a dedicated mailbox, unless that 
>> means a Sent mailbox that I have created? I don’t think I 
>> understand ‘“Sent Messages” standard mailbox’ vs ‘dedicated 
>> mailbox’.
>>
>> If it helps / matters, I don’t really use tags or folders. I mostly 
>> use Gmail, and do use its Important tag (which I figured out how to 
>> map properly in MM), but otherwise don’t tag or reorganize emails.
>>
>> I appreciate any guidance and hand holding here!
>>
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>
> Glenn P. Parker
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