[MlMt] I need a email provider with: catchall receiving - wildcard sending

Randall Gellens mailmate at randy.pensive.org
Fri Aug 30 13:22:20 EDT 2024


On 30 Aug 2024, at 5:15, Charlie Clark wrote:

> On 29 Aug 2024, at 18:41, Randall Gellens wrote:
>
>> I've been running my own mail server since last century and haven't 
>> run into any problems with big email providers not accepting my mail. 
>> What problems did you have?
>
> You may just be lucky. Normally, they want at least DKIM and SPF 
> records and you might still be greylisted.

Yes, I did need to create SPF records in my DNS, but aside from that, 
nothing else. I didn't need DKIM. I also make sure there are no open 
relays, of course.


> Or, worse, and happens to me on G-Mail, your e-mails are considered 
> spam and you'll be silently ignored unless the users check their 
> explicitly. I've had this domain around 25 years and my business one 
> for 15 and you still get occasional rejections because you might be a 
> spam pusher…

That's a risk, perhaps no more so with you own mail server, though.


> If one considers that the internet was initially conceived to avoid 
> the single point of failure risk, we're getting closer to unwinding it 
> with one of the key and most reliable forms of communication e-mail. 
> It's not beyond the realms of possibility that within the next couple 
> of years nearly all business communication (outside China) will run on 
> either Microsoft or Google servers, at which point they'll be able to 
> extend and then extinguish protocols…

We've moved quite far from the original principles (openness, 
complexity/enforcement at edges, no middleboxes interfering, narrow 
waist). Email is a casualty of its design principle that anyone can send 
to anyone. Perhaps X.400 was right after all :-).

>
> Charlie
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