[MlMt] Two Quick Questions

[Sam Birch]

Jim,

I’m not sure what Henry is trying to express, but I have some 
suggestions for you on thread display/management:

I don’t think MailMate supports _grouping_ messages non-hierarchically 
by thread and _sorting_ them by date within each thread. (I remember 
Microsoft Entourage having this feature back in the day and I miss it.) 
The quickest thing I’ve found for looking through a single thread in 
chronological order is to:

1. Click the subject line of the thread to focus on just this thread*.
2. Press Cmd-Shift-T to turn threading off. This should leave you with 
all the messages in the thread, sorted by date (or however you like.)

\*Well, technically it’s “just the messages with this subject”, 
but that’s usually close enough.

 From here you can select multiple messages to see them in the view (in 
the same order that they appear in the list), open them, whatever. When 
you’re done, you can press Cmd-Shift-T again to turn threading back on 
and hit escape to go back to viewing all messages.

You also have some options for expanding and collapsing threads quickly:

1. Hold down the option key and click the disclosure triangle next to a 
message to expand or collapse responses to that message, recursively.
2. With a message selected, hold down the option key and press the right 
or left arrow key to expand or collapse responses to that message, 
recursively.

There are also commands to expand and collapse an entire thread, no 
matter which message in the thread is selected. They are:

* `expandThread:`
* `collapseThread:`

These are not bound to keyboard shortcuts by default. I have them bound 
to “[“ and “]”. (Debian users may recognize these bindings from 
aptitude(1).)

Read [Custom Key 
Bindings](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings) for 
information on how to set this stuff up.

Here’s my (small) custom keybindings file:

```
{
	"[" = "expandThread:";
	"]" = "collapseThread:";
	a = "archive:";
	j = "moveToJunk:";
	l = "toggleFlag:";
	m = "toggleReadState:";
	s = "moveToMailbox:";
	"/" = "searchAllMessages:";
}
```

Hope this helps,
-sam

On 19 Oct 2022, at 21:25, Henry Seiden wrote:

> Jim,
>
> Further responses in line below:
>> As for my second question, [here is a 
>> screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/JFVPj5s.png) of my ongoing dialog with 
>> my lawyer. There are dozens more messages in this thread requiring 
>> laborious expansion. It’s hell to find the most recent.
>>
>> How do I change the Viewer to showing a flat list of unthreaded 
>> individual messages in reverse chron, ala Gmail’s view?
>
> Note that in the picture I sent, of your first message it only shows 
> the first quest and my responses to it. That is because the MM site 
> reflects (echoes) responses to all. I have sent messages and received 
> messages isolated in different folders. If I combine them, we’d see 
> all threaded messages received and sent on the topic.
>
> I created a smart Mailbox with the thread in question and can capture 
> all subjects containing the words required. Titled, “Same thread.” 
> [Here are the 
> conditions](https://www.dropbox.com/s/ocpmtuv0euv21jw/Screen%20Shot%202022-10-19%20at%20211712.png?dl=0). 
> You can re-edit to isolate any thread you’d like in the Mailbox.
>
> Then, [we can display a larger 
> group](https://www.dropbox.com/s/t4zdnidi5t8jd1u/Screen%20Shot%202022-10-19%20at%20212126.png?dl=0), 
> showing all dated versions of specific subject emails. Some of this 
> has to be applicable to what you want to do, right?
>
>
> Respectfully,
>
> Henry Seiden
> - -
> Techworks Pro Co.
> E: info<at>techworkspro<dot>com
> W: http://techworkspro.com
>
> On 19 Oct 2022, at 14:00, Jim Leff wrote:
>
>>>> How do I call up formatted view for a sent email?
>>
>> Henry Seiden replied:
>>
>>> Can you define what you mean by a “formatted view”?
>>
>> I can’t think of a clearer way to ask. Maybe it will help if I 
>> frame it as an anecdote.
>>
>> You reply to an email, interlacing your answers in blue. After 
>> sending, you re-open the sent mail, and the entire email is in black, 
>> because sent replies show unformatted.
>>
>> You wonder whether the formatting actually came through ok, but 
>> there’s no way to tell, nor any obvious way to bring up a formatted 
>> view of a sent message.
>>
>> ======
>>
>> As for my second question, [here is a 
>> screenshot](http://i.imgur.com/JFVPj5s.png) of my ongoing dialog with 
>> my lawyer. There are dozens more messages in this thread requiring 
>> laborious expansion. It’s hell to find the most recent.
>>
>> How do I change the Viewer to showing a flat list of unthreaded 
>> individual messages in reverse chron, ala Gmail’s view?
>>
>>
>>
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