[MlMt] Displaying the midnight hour

[Matt H]

I was ignoring this thread until I saw an email arrive at 24:53! :)

It also happened just as I was configuring a new computer, including 
installing the latest MailMate. So I had two separate laptops with 
different OS and different MailMate versions. So I looked at the same 
email on the two systems.

In summary, Philip Paeps has correctly identified the root cause. It is 
an obscure OS setting that allows the user to have times represented 
with numbers for the hours of the day from 1-24, as opposed to 0-23. If 
you have this setting set this way, you should see all time values 
represented like this on your system (at least for well-behaved 
graphical applications* that follow the OS System Preferences, e.g. 
MailMate, Finder).

I don't know why one of my laptops would be set to 1-24. Since other 
people have the same problem, there might be a bug somewhere, but I 
don't know. Anyway, to fix things, just like Philip said, go to System 
Preferences -> Language & Region -> Advanced -> Time, and look at the 
drop-down options for the hour representation. This worked for me on 
Catalina and Monterey.

-Matt

* Someone on this thread included an example using the command line. 
Time representation there will be governed by the output of strftime and 
the POSIX standards, and maybe your shell, I'm not sure. Type "man 
strftime" if you want to go down that rabbit hole :o


On 6 Jan 2022, at 7:58, Marc ARC wrote:

> Antonio,
>
> On my MacBook with High Sierra 10.13.6 (17G14042) and MM r5856,
> I see with a 24h presentation a mail from 11min past midnight as 
> “00:11” we are CET based.
>
> Could it be a timezone related issue ?
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Marc
>
>
> On 4 Jan 2022, at 3:36, Antonio Leding wrote:
>
>> “…only applies to GUI applications…”
>>
>> Ahhh - thanks Phillip - I checked the same file in Finder and alas, 
>> it does show 24:15.  So I then checked the file from another Mac with 
>> a different OS and it shows 00:15 yet has the exact same Time 
>> settings (both have all default).
>>
>> So now I believe this is a High Sierra bug…
>>
>> Thanks again for your help with this Phillip - very much 
>> appreciated…
>>
>> - - -
>>
>> On 3 Jan 2022, at 18:31, Philip Paeps wrote:
>>
>>> On 2022-01-04 05:45:30 (+0800), Antonio Leding wrote:
>>>> At present, I am only seeing this in Mailmate.  I performed the 
>>>> following test which illustrates that this is not a system wide 
>>>> issue.  Note that I actually specify the time as 24:15 for 15m past 
>>>> midnight and the system changes this to 00:15…
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [aleding @ hubble ~/Desktop]
>>>> [220103_133539-0800 36649] > touch -t 202201012415 timetest-1
>>>>
>>>> [aleding @ hubble ~/Desktop]
>>>> [220103_134034-0800 36650] > ls -l timetest-1
>>>> -rw-r--r--  1 aleding  admin  0 Jan  2 00:15 timetest-1
>>>
>>> The system setting only applies to GUI applications.
>>>
>>> (An email with screenshots will hit the list when Benny gets a 
>>> chance to approve it.)
>>>
>>> Philip
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Philip Paeps
>>> Senior Reality Engineer
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