[MlMt] Is there a way to schedule rules running in MailMate?

Randall Gellens mailmate at randy.pensive.org
Fri Apr 29 11:26:35 EDT 2022


On 29 Apr 2022, at 6:09, Robert Wall wrote:

> On 29 Apr 2022, at 7:55, Eric Sharakan wrote:
>
>> On 29 Apr 2022, at 8:41, Robert Wall wrote:
>>
>>>> On Apr 29, 2022, at 7:28 AM, Randall Gellens 
>>>> <mailmate at randy.pensive.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 28 Apr 2022, at 20:02, Bill Cole wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 2022-04-28 at 18:03:47 UTC-0400 (Thu, 28 Apr 2022 15:03:47 
>>>>> -0700)
>>>>> Randall Gellens <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
>>>>> is rumored to have said:
>>>>>
>>>>>> This is what I do for all my archive and auto-delete functions, 
>>>>>> but it seems to me that the rules in the smart mailbox don't 
>>>>>> always fire until I click on the mailbox to view it, a bit like 
>>>>>> Schrödinger's mailbox. I also find this behavior in general, 
>>>>>> e.g., I see a new message arrive in my main Inbox that should 
>>>>>> have been moved by a rule to a different mailbox, but instead it 
>>>>>> sits in my Inbox for hours (maybe longer) but if I click on the 
>>>>>> mailbox to which it should have been moved, there it is and it's 
>>>>>> gone when I switch back to the Inbox. It seems that, for whatever 
>>>>>> reason, rules don't always trigger or at least the effect of them 
>>>>>> running isn't always visible. But other times they do seem to run 
>>>>>> automatically.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is an IMAP artifact. You don't see the message in the new 
>>>>> location until you resynch the new location.
>>>>
>>>> You're saying that MailMate doesn't resync a mailbox after it moves 
>>>> a message? And furthermore, ignores IDLE, which my server supports 
>>>> and which MM issues? Even if that was the case (which seems very 
>>>> hard to believe), then how is that the rules do work as intended at 
>>>> other times?
>>>
>>> I always just thought it was a minor UI glitch. When it happens to 
>>> me, the moved message will sometimes be there for quite awhile- but 
>>> if I switch to another mailbox and back quickly, it disappears as 
>>> expected.
>>
>> I'm pretty sure Benny has said in the past that this MM behavior is 
>> intentional, to prevent confusion caused by a message disappearing 
>> from (or appearing in) a mailbox you're currently looking at.
>
> If it's intentional that it stay, then it's still glitched - because 
> sometimes it disappears right away, and sometimes it doesn't.
>
> In my opinion the behavior *should* be to process the rule 
> immediately, and register the results of that processing in the UI. 
> Otherwise you find yourself staring at messages and wondering why your 
> rules aren't firing. :)

Yes, exactly. It would seem to make more sense to download the message, 
run it through the rules, then, if after that the message is put into a 
mailbox currently being viewed, update the display to show it.


--Randall
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