[MlMt] MailMate and Monterey

[Thomas Bartlett]

Thank you. I have now downloaded 5850 and it’s running well.

What seems to have made the difference in being able to download mail from the Outlook and Hotmail servers is app-specific passwords that I got (from where I don’t remember) and inserted into the IMAP and SMTP password lines of the settings for both accounts. I have been leaving OAuth2 unchecked, because downloading occurs well without it and I think I’ve had some problems when I did check it. With Hotmail I can send and receive; with Outlook only receive, which is probably the more important of the two actions, since I have mail newsletters sent to that address.

I have Thunderbird on my computer but haven’t done much with it yet. Since you mention it, when time permits maybe I’ll give it a look and see if I can learn anything that might enhance my use of MailMate as well.

Thomas

On 25 Nov 2021, at 10:37, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 23 Nov 2021, at 3:03, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:
>
>>> To get the latest test release (and you should for Monterey): Hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update preferences pane.
>>
>> I tried that after r5844 was installed and nothing happened. The window just closed. I suppose that means I’m fully up to date.
>
> Please try this again. It should offer you r5850 now.
>
>> I have Office365 on my MacBook PRO with Monterey OS, running in “New Outlook” mode. It definitely does connect to Outlook.com mail and Hotmail.com mail. Of course, it’s to be expected that a Microsoft mail client would connect effectively with the Microsoft mail servers.
>
> Their own email clients talk “native” Exchange and not IMAP. The same goes for Apple Mail and a few other email clients. The primary test is: If it works in Thunderbird then it should also be possible to make it work in MailMate. (Well, there's a kind of an exception to that rule for Yahoo for which Thunderbird has gotten special treatment somehow.)
>
>> My (perhaps excessively suspicious) hypothesis might be that Microsoft is deliberately making it difficult or impossible for other mail clients to do the same, but then what do I know about it?
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> Well, I can tell you that Apple also supports some kind of OAuth2-like system for Apple Mail which is completely off limits for third party email clients (which then has to rely on the user creating application specific passwords). In that sense, Microsoft
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