[MlMt] MailMate and Monterey

Marco Qualizza mierauch at gmail.com
Tue Nov 23 12:13:56 EST 2021

With regards to being able to connect to Outlook, I've had no problem 
receiving mail or running filters (so, IMAP is working great).  But, 
recently my company decided to enable "modern authentication" (and 
disable "basic authentication") for sending.

For people like me, who don't know too much about email authentication 
stuff, this essentially translates to:

* SMTP Authentication = No.
* ADAL (Active Directory Authentication Library)-based Authentication = 
* MailMate Sending Through Outlook Servers = Pooched*.

\* For now?  Hopefully not for ever?

Cheers! :-)

On 22 Nov 2021, at 9:46, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 22 Nov 2021, at 15:08, t.bartlett--- via mailmate wrote:
>> I run Monterey 12.0.1. I don’t have MacOS 12.1, but should I update 
>> to 12.1 for better compatibility with MailMate?
> No, that's not need for that.
>>  I looked at the About MailMate window. It said I had 5835 installed. 
>> Then I looked at the Updates window. It said I should downgrade to 
>> 5637.
> The r5835 is one of many test releases and MailMate offered you the 
> latest public release (which is pretty old now and not very good with 
> Monterey). I'm working on making a new public release, but there's 
> still a lot to do.
> To get the latest test release (and you should for Monterey): Hold 
> down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software Update 
> preferences pane.
>> So I did that. Big mistake apparently. Then that did not recognize my 
>> license anymore. Maybe it was out of date. So I paid $49.95 to 
>> Freron. And on top of that, I agreed to be a Patron.
> Let me know if you regret this and I'll provide refunds. (You can 
> write me off list if you like.)
> If not, thanks for the support!!
>> On another subject: Will MailMate ever be able to connect to 
>> outlook.com and hotmail.com servers?  I have legacy accounts there 
>> that receive mail but MailMate hasn’t been able to download that 
>> for a year or two now.
> My own test account for outlook.com also doesn't work at the moment. 
> It did work in the past and I'm a bit unsure what changed. Making 
> OAuth2 work for it involved some guessing since I cannot find any 
> official documentation from Microsoft on how that's supposed to work.
> It's possible that it still works with an application specific keyword 
> since outlook.com is not the same thing as Office365 (which does work 
> and does definitely not allow application specific passwords). Another 
> data point: I'm pretty sure OAuth2 does not work for outlook.com 
> accounts in Thunderbird.
> I'll look into it eventually, but I cannot guarantee that I can make 
> it work again.
> -- 
> Benny
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