[MlMt] Junk folder gets messages when Sieve unchecked

Antonio Leding tech at leding.net
Mon Jul 26 16:52:30 EDT 2021


So to recap (please correct any errors):

* There is a folder locally in MlMt called **Junk**; this same folder 
does **not** exist on the Fastmail server.

* There is a folder on the Fastmail server called **Spam**; this same 
folder does **not** exist locally in MlMt.
* SpamAssassin is running on the Fastmail side.
* The message in question was moved to the local **Junk** folder but 
**not** the **Spam** folder on the Fastmail side.
* The message in question had header info that indicates it was 
evaluated by SpamAssassin and also had a relatively high Spam score 
(7.2).

If the above is accurate, then the next 2 things I would like to know 
are:

* What happened to the message on the Fastmail side?  Meaning in which 
folder did it land?

* If you right-click on the local **Junk** folder and then goto 
“Mailbox Type”, how is it mapped?

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On 26 Jul 2021, at 8:00, Ralph Alvy wrote:

> I forgot to mention that the Junk folder is not on the Fastmail 
> server. It is only a local folder created by MailMate. That seems to 
> suggest the only way it got there is via MailMate itself.
>
> On Mon, Jul 26, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Ralph Alvy wrote:
>> But Fastmail has its own folder for that. It's called Spam. And it 
>> did not put it in that folder.
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 25, 2021, at 7:51 PM, Bill Cole wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-25 at 20:15:31 UTC-0400 (Sun, 25 Jul 2021 17:15:31 -0700)
>>> Ralph Alvy <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
>>> is rumored to have said:
>>>
>>>> I have no Inbox rules at all. Here are the Sieve relevant lines in 
>>>> the
>>>> raw message:
>>>>
>>>> X-Sieve: CMU Sieve 3.0
>>>> X-Spam-known-sender: no
>>>> X-Spam-sender-reputation: 500 (none)
>>>> X-Spam-score: 7.2
>>>> X-Spam-hits: HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS 0.248,
>>>> HTML_FONT_LOW_CONTRAST 0.001,
>>>>   HTML_MESSAGE 0.001, ME_HAS_VSSU 0.001, ME_SENDERREP_NEUTRAL 
>>>> 0.001,
>>>>   RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001, SPF_PASS -0.001,
>>>>   URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_SPAM 7, LANGUAGES en, BAYES_USED none, SA_VERSION
>>>> 3.4.2
>>>
>>> That's a SpamAssassin header, added by the server. Your mail 
>>> provider
>>> put that message in Junk, not MailMate. The total score of 7.2 is
>>> significantly above the default SA threshold score for spam (5.0) 
>>> but
>>> the 'X-Spam-hits' itemization shows that almost entirely due to one
>>> issue: the "URIBL_DBL_ABUSE_SPAM" hit scored at 7. That hit 
>>> indicates
>>> that there was a link in the message body whose domain is listed in 
>>> the
>>> Spamhaus DBL list: https://www.spamhaus.org/dbl. It is rare for the 
>>> DBL
>>> to list domains that are not exclusively used in spam, but it does
>>> happen.
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> Bill Cole
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>>> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses)
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