[MlMt] Rules not firing - even when manually executed

Robert Goldman rpgoldman at sift.net
Sun Feb 21 09:42:46 EST 2021


I was on the latest release, and I'm still seeing the problem. So, 
Robert, it is at least not obviously fixed by downgrading to the release 
version.

Anyone have any more info on rules?

Seems like several of us are having issues with the rules editor and 
applying rules.

On 18 Feb 2021, at 8:57, Robert Goldman wrote:

> On 18 Feb 2021, at 8:33, Robert Goldman wrote:
>
>> On 18 Feb 2021, at 7:14, Robert Wall wrote:
>>
>>> Just flagging this as solved for me. I went to do updates, and for 
>>> some reason I was on a beta / pre-release version. Mailmate prompted 
>>> me to downgrade, I did, and all is well.
>>>
>>> Worth noting.
>>
>> I checked in response to this and I see
>>
>>> MailMate 5673 is the latest version available—you have version 
>>> 5673.
>>
>> So ... Maybe that's a beta?
>>
>> Is there anything we should do to identify the issue in the beta so 
>> it doesn't slip through into production?
>
> Hmmm.... That doesn't look like the latest version. Wonder what's 
> going wrong for me in software update? Anyone have any suggestions?
>>
>>>
>>> On 16 Feb 2021, at 10:30, Robert Goldman wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 16 Feb 2021, at 8:14, Robert Wall wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> However, if I change it to ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. edit rules for mailbox 'foo'
>>>>>> 2. switch to some other mailbox (doesn't matter which one)
>>>>>> 3. switch back to mailbox 'foo'
>>>>>> 4. run rules manually
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ... then the rules work as expected.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried this, and no joy unfortunately. I even quit and 
>>>>> re-launched.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have been having the exact same problem.  Interestingly, the use 
>>>> of rules in defining smart mailboxes seems to be fine, and at least 
>>>> some of my old rules are working. I just cannot seem to get a new 
>>>> rule to work.
>>>>
>>>> I have seen anomalies in development of rules, too -- I was trying 
>>>> to build them using tagging as the action (so I could easily see 
>>>> the effect of a rule), I would add and then delete conjuncts to a 
>>>> rule and this change was not idempotent: the rules would stop 
>>>> working with the new conjunct, but would not start working again 
>>>> when I deleted it.
>>>>
>>>> I have a vague memory of Benny saying there was some way to debug 
>>>> the rules (by enabling some kind of MM logging to the screen), but 
>>>> I have forgotten how to do it. 😢 I think I had to toggle some 
>>>> preference and then start MailMate from the command line...
>>>>
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