[MlMt] OT: iOS mail client

Antonio Leding tech at leding.net
Sat Sep 5 13:46:53 EDT 2020


Personally, doesn’t bother me but it’s not my list - I defer to the 
owner Benny but presuming he is a stickler for these things, anyone who 
wishes to continue this elsewhere, feel free to PM me at 
tech at leding.net..




On 5 Sep 2020, at 10:43, Sam Hathaway wrote:

> Folks — This thread is now OT even from its original OT topic, and 
> we’ve already discussed the privacy situation with server-assisted 
> email clients to death within living memory. Maybe now would be a good 
> time to take this off list?
> -sam
>
> On 5 Sep 2020, at 13:20, Antonio Leding wrote:
>
>> Apologies if I missed this — and I’m not advocating using Spark 
>> (far from it) — but nowhere in any of Readdle’s (maker of Spark) 
>> policies nor their blog about privacy did I see where they actually 
>> store credentials on their servers.  They do say “Spark needs 
>> access to usernames & passwords” but I interpret this to mean the 
>> app which is the same for all IMAP clients most notably the one I am 
>> using right now - Mailmate.
>>
>> If you have a different interpretation or know where I missed it, 
>> please share… :=)
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5 Sep 2020, at 8:07, Charlie Garrison wrote:
>>
>>> On 6 Sep 2020, at 0:13, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
>>>
>>>> If I understand this correctly, Spark's architecture requires them 
>>>> to
>>>> have access to your email passwords. To me, that's a complete
>>>> non-starter; your email password is the most important one you
>>>> have, since it can be used to reset all of your other passwords.
>>>
>>> That's an important distinction too. It's the difference between 
>>> giving someone the keys to your house (Spark) -vs- letting them peer 
>>> through the front door (Edison).
>>>
>>> I don't want anyone doing either, but they are still very different 
>>> risk profiles. It's not ok with me when companies hide either 
>>> behaviour.
>>>
>>> -cng
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>>
>>>     Charlie Garrison                   <charlie at garrison.com.au>
>>>     Garrison Computer Services      <http://www.garrison.com.au>
>>>     PO Box 380
>>>     Tumbarumba NSW 2653  Australia
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