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<p dir="auto">Personally, doesn’t bother me but it’s not my list - I defer to the owner Benny but presuming he is a stickler for these things, anyone who wishes to continue this elsewhere, feel free to PM me at tech@leding.net..</p>
<p dir="auto">On 5 Sep 2020, at 10:43, Sam Hathaway wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Folks — This thread is now OT even from its original OT topic, and we’ve already discussed the privacy situation with server-assisted email clients to death within living memory. Maybe now would be a good time to take this off list?<br>
-sam</p>
<p dir="auto">On 5 Sep 2020, at 13:20, Antonio Leding wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">Apologies if I missed this — and I’m not advocating using Spark (far from it) — but nowhere in any of Readdle’s (maker of Spark) policies nor their blog about privacy did I see where they actually store credentials on their servers. They do say “Spark needs access to usernames & passwords” but I interpret this to mean the app which is the same for all IMAP clients most notably the one I am using right now - Mailmate.</p>
<p dir="auto">If you have a different interpretation or know where I missed it, please share… :=)</p>
<p dir="auto">On 5 Sep 2020, at 8:07, Charlie Garrison wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">On 6 Sep 2020, at 0:13, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">If I understand this correctly, Spark's architecture requires them to<br>
have access to your email passwords. To me, that's a complete<br>
non-starter; your email password is the most important one you<br>
have, since it can be used to reset all of your other passwords.</p>
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<p dir="auto">That's an important distinction too. It's the difference between giving someone the keys to your house (Spark) -vs- letting them peer through the front door (Edison).</p>
<p dir="auto">I don't want anyone doing either, but they are still very different risk profiles. It's not ok with me when companies hide either behaviour.</p>
<p dir="auto">-cng</p>
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PO Box 380
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