[MlMt] Ideas to reduce the footprint of MailMate

[Guillaume Barrette]

Hi Bill,

  Thanks again for your help!

Regarding the rules that apply tags, actually I had one for each emails 
that added a tag to each new email and that were changed at a later time 
by a Google Apps Script. I now removed them and removed the script. I'll 
see if this changes something (actually I did it some hours ago and with 
only 1 email online in MM and I still see the download raise a little 
too much; seems to be less than before, but still a lot more than what 
Sam gets).

Now I've been running with my biggest email account (102,819 emails) for 
about 2 or maybe 3 hours and I have 170 mb downloads. So, I guess this 
is the one that is the most problematic... I'll keep looking at it.

You said that Gmail auto tagging could cause the download of email 
multiple times, could this happen with the auto mark as Important in 
Gmail ? and when we flag an email (starred) ? Or since those 2 mailboxes 
are not subscribed, then this shouldn't cause any problem?

Thanks,

--
Guillaume

On 10 May 2020, at 22:21, Bill Cole wrote:

> On 10 May 2020, at 21:43, Guillaume Barrette wrote:
>
>> Hi Sam,
>>
>>    Thanks a lot for doing the test, this is really appreciated and 
>> give me a better cue that something shouldn't be right with my setup!
>>
>> I was thinking that maybe the problem was with Gmail since my 3 
>> emails who are really used are from Gmail, the 2 others are from my 
>> web hosting provider and only have 109 messages in one and 21 in the 
>> other, but now that you said that you have 2 Gmails addresses, then 
>> there must be something else.
>
> GMail does seem like a potential source of heavy traffic, since they 
> conflate IMAP flags (which MM exposes as "Tags") with mailboxes, so 
> that their mailboxes are a bit like "Smart" mailboxes. If you have 
> rules that tag mail automatically you could end up downloading mail 
> twice or more.
>
>
>> So, do you mind giving me some insight on how your Gmail accounts are 
>> configured in MailMate? Myself, I followed the information that we 
>> can find in MailMate manual 
>> [here](https://manual.mailmate-app.com/account_setup). So my 
>> `Important` + `Starred` mailboxes are unchecked (not subscribed), but 
>> I kept checked my `All Mail` mailbox (subscribed). Is it what you 
>> have or you also unchecked the `All Mail` mailbox ?
>
> I also have 2 GMail accounts, one with the recommended subscriptions 
> and one with all mailboxes subscribed. I do not see heavy bandwidth 
> usage, but I also have very little mail activity on those accounts.
>
>> Now I think I'll put my email accounts offline and activate one for a 
>> while and do this procedure with each account and see if one is the 
>> problem or if it's MailMate in general.
>
> An excellent approach.
>
> One thing I have seen (and submitted a bug report for years ago) is 
> that MM can get into an infinite loop state where it repeatedly runs 
> the same IMAP commands against the same mailbox until the mailbox is 
> offlined. This could cause heavy bandwidth use but you would probably 
> notice that because it comes with an activity spinner for the account 
> & mailbox stricken by the bug.
>
>
>> One question for anyone reading, I don't think this is the case since 
>> from my understanding this should simply scan the local copy of the 
>> emails, but does the more that we have smart mailboxes in MailMate 
>> the more it needs to fetch emails online?
>
> No. Unless you have rules attached to those smart mailboxes that tag 
> or move messages automatically, they should not cause any server 
> interactions.
>
>
>
> -- 
> Bill Cole
> bill at scconsult.com or billcole at apache.org
> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses)
> Not For Hire (currently)
> _______________________________________________
> mailmate mailing list
> mailmate at lists.freron.com
> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate