[MlMt] Can I view account password?

[Thomas Bartlett]

Good idea. I might try that, but at this point I’m having trouble even getting to my Hotmail account online. When I type hotmail.com <http://hotmail.com/> on the address line, it converts that to outlook.live.com <http://outlook.live.com/> and takes me to my Outlook mail site online. The two are separate.  Microsoft has said that Hotmail became Outlook, but that’s simply a lie. Hotmail was replaced by a new and separate email service called outlook.com <http://outlook.com/>. I have, indeed, occasionally found myself staring at the Hotmail account online but I’m damned if I know how I got there or how to repeat whatever got me there.  Anyway, I’ll keep your thought in mind if that happens again. I think Microsoft is playing tricks with Hotmail. 

Thomas

> On Aug 30, 2020, at 8:31 PM, Randall Gellens <mailmate at randy.pensive.org> wrote:
> 
> The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark.
> 
> Normally, password resets are done at the mail provider using a web browser, not in an email client. Can you go to hotmail.com and reset your password there?
> 
> --Randall
> 
> On 30 Aug 2020, at 14:24, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:
> 
> Thanks for the thoughts. See my interlinear responses below. 
> 
> 
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Sam Hathaway <list.mailmate at munkynet.org <mailto:list.mailmate at munkynet.org>> wrote:
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>> On 30 Aug 2020, at 4:55, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:
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>>> "com.apple.Exchange.oath-refresh-token."
>> 
>> Thomas,
>> 
>> You mean, “oauth-refresh-token”, right?
> 
> Yes. You’re right. 
> 
>> 
>> If your account is using OAuth, your mail client won’t store the account password.
>> 
>> The keychain items that MailMate stores for my GMail account (which uses OAuth) are:
>> 
>> com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-token
>> com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-refresh-token
>> 
>> Neither of these contain my GMail password.
>> 
>> By contrast, for my FastMail account (which uses application passwords), MailMate stores these items in the keychain:
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>> imap.fastmail.com <http://imap.fastmail.com/>
>> smtp.fastmail.com
> 
> MailMate shows the server addresses for all seven of my email accounts. 
>> 
>> These both contain the FastMail application password for my account.
> 
> MailMate only shows the password for my Yahoo account, not for the two Gmails, the iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/>, the Outlook, the Hotmail, my employer’s Exchange account. 
>> 
>> Basically, if your provider uses OAuth, you’re SOL any you’ll probably have to reset your password.
>> -sam
>> 
>> P.S.: Why do you have so many email clients?! XD
> 
> Thanks for the explanation about OAuth, which I didn’t know but answers a long-standing question in my mind. Is four email clients really very many to have installed?  Anyway, I sort of drifted into trying out new ones, not being fully satisfied with any of them. And I sometimes find that one or another behaves eccentrically so drop it and go to another one.  I used MS Outlook on my PC for about 15 years and liked its Address Book very much. Then I moved to Mac OS platform and took up Mail, which I found inferior.  Then someone recommended MailMate, which does some things much better than Mail, but is sometimes complex beyond my level of expertise, as in the present case about passwords. Then someone recommended Spark, which is fine when working right, but it can be devilishly recalcitrant to configure.  And, when I got Office 365 for Mac, it came with an improved MS Outlook, which has the advantage of working more seamlessly with the Microsoft Outlook mail and Hotmail. I have a 1TB solid state drive which is less than half full, so reduplication of downloaded mail isn’t a problem (yet).  Yes, it’s sometimes tedious to keep all of my accounts functioning properly in all four clients.  But right now, except for Hotmail in Spark, everything else is behaving as expected. The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark.  
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> Thomas
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