[MlMt] Can I view account password?

[Randall Gellens]

> The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” 
> feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can 
> configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, 
> then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark.

Normally, password resets are done at the mail provider using a web 
browser, not in an email client.  Can you go to hotmail.com and reset 
your password there?

--Randall

On 30 Aug 2020, at 14:24, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:

> Thanks for the thoughts. See my interlinear responses below.
>
>
>> On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Sam Hathaway 
>> <list.mailmate at munkynet.org> wrote:
>>
>> On 30 Aug 2020, at 4:55, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:
>>
>>> "com.apple.Exchange.oath-refresh-token."
>>
>> Thomas,
>>
>> You mean, “oauth-refresh-token”, right?
>
> Yes. You’re right.
>
>>
>> If your account is using OAuth, your mail client won’t store the 
>> account password.
>>
>> The keychain items that MailMate stores for my GMail account (which 
>> uses OAuth) are:
>>
>> com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-token
>> com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-refresh-token
>>
>> Neither of these contain my GMail password.
>>
>> By contrast, for my FastMail account (which uses application 
>> passwords), MailMate stores these items in the keychain:
>>
>> imap.fastmail.com
>> smtp.fastmail.com
>
> MailMate shows the server addresses for all seven of my email 
> accounts.
>>
>> These both contain the FastMail application password for my account.
>
> MailMate only shows the password for my Yahoo account, not for the two 
> Gmails, the iCloud.com <http://icloud.com/>, the Outlook, the Hotmail, 
> my employer’s Exchange account.
>>
>> Basically, if your provider uses OAuth, you’re SOL any you’ll 
>> probably have to reset your password.
>> -sam
>>
>> P.S.: Why do you have so many email clients?! XD
>
> Thanks for the explanation about OAuth, which I didn’t know but 
> answers a long-standing question in my mind. Is four email clients 
> really very many to have installed?  Anyway, I sort of drifted into 
> trying out new ones, not being fully satisfied with any of them. And I 
> sometimes find that one or another behaves eccentrically so drop it 
> and go to another one.  I used MS Outlook on my PC for about 15 years 
> and liked its Address Book very much. Then I moved to Mac OS platform 
> and took up Mail, which I found inferior.  Then someone recommended 
> MailMate, which does some things much better than Mail, but is 
> sometimes complex beyond my level of expertise, as in the present case 
> about passwords. Then someone recommended Spark, which is fine when 
> working right, but it can be devilishly recalcitrant to configure.  
> And, when I got Office 365 for Mac, it came with an improved MS 
> Outlook, which has the advantage of working more seamlessly with the 
> Microsoft Outlook mail and Hotmail. I have a 1TB solid state drive 
> which is less than half full, so reduplication of downloaded mail 
> isn’t a problem (yet).  Yes, it’s sometimes tedious to keep all of 
> my accounts functioning properly in all four clients.  But right now, 
> except for Hotmail in Spark, everything else is behaving as expected. 
> The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” 
> feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can 
> configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, 
> then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark.
>
> Thomas


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