[MlMt] can I create a non-smart mailbox?

Ken Pope ken at kenpope.com
Sun Dec 22 16:59:31 EST 2019

Thanks so much to Glenn Parker and Bill Cole for their quick responses 
(please see below) to my question.  Your clear explanations were 
invaluable to my learning how to create IMAP folders and to smoothing my 
transition from a POP client to MailMate and IMAP. With great 
appreciation for your skill and thoughtfulness, Ken

On 21 Dec 2019, at 13:01, Glenn Parker wrote:

> MailMate’s smart folders are really just a clever ways to sort and 
> view your messages. They are, in effect, virtual folders that are only 
> visible within your local MailMate environment. However, MailMate is 
> an IMAP email client (instead of POP) and the IMAP system supports the 
> creation of real folders on the mail server side. Using IMAP folders, 
> you can change the organization of messages on the server, and the 
> folders will be accessible via any IMAP mail client, not just MailMate 
> (for example, if you read email with an IMAP-capable mobile app, 
> you’ll see these folders there as well).
> To create an IMAP folder in MailMate, go to the “Sources” section 
> at the lower left of your main mail window, then right-click on your 
> IMAP account (probably the domain name of your email provider) and 
> select [New IMAP Mailbox in “YOUR-ACCOUNT”…] from the popup 
> menu. This will instantly create a new folder labeled “Unnamed” at 
> the bottom of your list of mail folders. Click on the name to rename 
> the folder, then drag the folder to reposition it at a suitable spot 
> in your list of folders. You can drag any existing message into (or 
> out of) this folder. It’s a real, permanent folder, which can also 
> have new “smart” folders created within it if you like.
> You can create one or more rules to automatically move messages from 
> your INBOX  as they are received directly into an IMAP folder. This 
> may make it easier to keep messages sorted correctly. You just need to 
> remember to check for new messages in your other IMAP folders. Once 
> you configure some INBOX rules, you can right-click on the INBOX 
> folder name, then select [Apply Rules of “INBOX”] to move existing 
> messages according to your rules.
> Glenn P. Parker
> glenn.parker at comcast.net

On 21 Dec 2019, at 14:04, Bill Cole wrote:

> On 21 Dec 2019, at 11:22, Ken Pope wrote:
>> Have just transitioned from a pop mail client to MailMate.  
> The biggest part of that is switching from POP to IMAP, which is 
> designed with a radically different concept of how email is used. An 
> IMAP server is intended to be the home for your email and its 
> organization, the repository of "truth" for as many IMAP clients of 
> whatever flavor as you wish to use. This requires a change in how you 
> think about your mail.
> Some IMAP clients, particularly ones which also do POP such as 
> Thunderbird or Apple Mail, blend the conceptual models of POP and IMAP 
> by supporting a hierarchy of real local mail folders that supplement 
> the folders on an IMAP server as a permanent organized store of 
> messages. MailMate does not: you have only a mailbox hierarchy on the 
> servers where you have accounts and virtual "smart" mailboxes that 
> only exist as MailMate assemblies of messages.
> This is not really as limiting as it may seem at first. Because you DO 
> have the server-side mailbox hierarchy.
>> There are some large groups of emails relevant to my research that 
>> defy my attempts to capture their characteristics within the smart 
>> mailbox descriptors (diverse senders, content, headers, etc., within 
>> each research project).  I would like to create a set of 
>> “non-smart” mailboxes and simply drag & drop each email into one 
>> of those mailboxes whenever it arrives in my inbox & I’ve responded 
>> to it.  I’ve been unable to find out how to do this.  Is it 
>> possible in MailMate, and if so would someone let me know how to do 
>> it (or where to find the instructions)?  
> Create them as IMAP mailboxes. To create one at the top level of an 
> IMAP account in MailMate, select the account in the "Sources" section 
> of the mailbox list and use the "Mailbox->New IMAP Mailbox in 
> <accountname>" menu command (also accessible by right-click.) You can 
> also create new IMAP mailboxes inside existing IMAP mailboxes, 
> building as complex a hierarchy as you want. For example, in my main 
> IMAP account I have 16 top-level mailboxes and another 226 within 
> those.

> -- 
> Bill Cole
> bill at scconsult.com or billcole at apache.org
> (AKA @grumpybozo and many *@billmail.scconsult.com addresses)
> Not For Hire (currently)

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