[MlMt] Devonthink

[Howard Wettstein]

I wish I could hang out for an hour with a DT user and see how it goes. 
Looks fascinating but complicated. Also, I've seen references to syncing 
it across one's machines and devices. Is it possible, easy to do this?
Howie

> Jan Erik Moström <mailto:lists at mostrom.pp.se>
> August 26, 2016 at 3:54 AM
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 18:01, Scott Schulz wrote:
>
>
> Yes, it's included but you have to find a place where to store the 
> data. I haven't checked what services they include but I'm using Dropbox.
>
> = jem
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> Scott Schulz <mailto:swschulz at astrum.com>
> August 25, 2016 at 9:01 AM
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 11:46, Jan Erik Moström wrote:
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>
> Thanks for the review.   In DT, is the sync functionality included 
> with the application?  That is, if I buy a version, will it sync to 
> other copies of that without an additional fee?  I am a longterm EN 
> user, but with their recent price increases, I am considering a move 
> to OneNote or Notes (and now DT).
>
> S
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> Jan Erik Moström <mailto:lists at mostrom.pp.se>
> August 25, 2016 at 8:46 AM
>
> On 25 Aug 2016, at 16:38, Howard Wettstein wrote:
>
> Devonthink is similar to Evernote in that you can store notes, pdfs, 
> etc in a database. But Devonthink takes a different approach than 
> Evernote.
>
> Evernote is an online service (at least if you want to take full 
> advantage of the available features) that has clients on a large 
> number of platforms. EN stores notes etc in HTML format but it can 
> also "embed" files, photos, etc in those pages. The OCR is pretty, 
> organization and searching is average, there is good support from 
> various other apps/services to use EN. From my point of view I think 
> it works best as a capture device for web pages - I don't like it very 
> much from a note taking view (the formatting is also troublesome when 
> working on different platforms). Biggest problem for me is that it 
> modifies plain text files when they are stored as notes (tabs etc are 
> removed since the text is stored as HTML), also no Markdown support.
>
> Devonthink on the other hand is a "local app", i.e. there is no cloud 
> where you store the data instead everything lives on your Mac (more 
> about this later). You can create any number of databases, you can 
> organize each database as you like - for example in a hierarchical 
> fashion (folders within folders). You can store almost any kind of 
> data in its original form - so a text file stays a text file, a word 
> file is a word file. Actually, you can tell Devonthink to index files 
> /outside/ the database which means that you can leave your Word files 
> as normal files in a folder somewhere on your harddisk but DT will 
> index them and make them searchable from within DT. DT also contains a 
> web browser, a very powerful search engine, some "AI" to help you 
> categorize and find material, etc. It also supports templates and is 
> highly scriptable/extensible.
>
> Evernote have had the convenience advantage because of the syncing and 
> the availability on many platforms while DT has pretty much won 
> everything else except OCR (EN is more convenient).
>
> They both have user interfaces that be considered ... "rough". EN has 
> an almost flat "learning curve" while DT will surprise you for years 
> you with functionality that you didn't know existed.
>
> I've used both on-and-off for a long time. And until this summer 
> Evernote has won because of the convenience aspect, but this summer 
> Devon Technologies released a new syncing engine together with a new 
> iOS client ... which makes a huge difference. The convenience 
> advantage is now gone for Evernote (I'm all macOS/iOS) so I'm now 
> moving my important stuff to DT - will probably continue to use EN for 
> sharing documents etc within the family but otherwise I'm going to DT.
>
> = jem
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> Howard Wettstein <mailto:howie at ucr.edu>
> August 25, 2016 at 7:38 AM
> I’m intrigued by comments about Devonthink. Could someone give me a 
> brief description of the program and how it works? I don’t mean a 
> technical account, just a short message about how to use it, what it 
> does, etc. Or a link to where I can find such a descriptions. I’ver 
> used Evernote for years, love it, and it seems there is overlap.
>
> Thanks.
> Howie

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