[MlMt] giving up - MailMate crash - won't synchronize

[Helen Holzgrafe]

Oh! I wish I had known about these...

-Helen

On 14 May 2015, at 10:40, Marco Carmosino wrote:

> Do these programs (thunderbird etc) store messages in mbox format? If 
> so, piping the mbox files in and out of the "formail" program (part of 
> procmail, it forces messages into mbox format using some heuristics) 
> can fix at least some, perhaps even most corruption. Then, you can 
> diff the formail output and see what messages were dropped and fix 
> those manually.
>
> I had to recover a bunch of email archives with corruption a couple 
> years ago and this worked well. Formail can also split mboxes into 
> uniform-sized files, so you can take on this task in bite-sized 
> chunks, so you can do this 100 messages at a time or so.
>
> I lost the scripts that I used to do this but here are some links:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Procmail
> http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/formail1.html
>
> Formail comes with mac os x.
>
> best,
>
> -- marco
>
>
> On 14 May 2015, at 9:57, Helen Holzgrafe wrote:
>
>> Following up on my last message:
>>
>> When I got the endless sync problem when moving a folder, here is the 
>> only thing that worked to keep going:
>>
>> Force  quit Mailmate.
>> Restart Mailmate.
>> Remove completely the folder in question.
>> Quit Mailmate again (this is crucial for some reason).
>> Restart Mailmate.
>> Try again to move a smaller set of messages from the offending 
>> folder.
>>
>> Perhaps it would be good if Mailmate could do better 
>> detecting/handling corrupt import files.  For me, it would have made 
>> things easier if Mailmate could report which message(s) seem corrupt 
>> . Then I could have imported the good ones with less trial and error. 
>> Maybe Mailmate could attempt to fix the corrupt messages and import 
>> them into some special folder for further inspection by the user...
>>
>> -Helen
>>
>> On 14 May 2015, at 9:35, Helen Holzgrafe wrote:
>>
>>> I just saw this thread and I have had the same problem with endless 
>>> synchronizing while  transitioning.  I was using Postbox, but it is 
>>> very similar to Thunderbird (I believe from the same base source 
>>> code). I had 20+ years of mail, more than 350,000 messages and three 
>>> accounts.
>>>
>>> I solved this by never moving more than one mailbox folder at a time 
>>> (not account, not mail box, but folder). If a folder was more than 
>>> about a 1000 messages I broke that up even smaller. That allowed me 
>>> to get everything moved over.
>>>
>>> What was the problem for me and why I never reported anything to 
>>> Benny:
>>>
>>> Every time I had a folder fail to transition properly was because it 
>>> had one or more corrupt mail messages in the folder.  Every time the 
>>> synchronize would fail I would reduce the number of messages being 
>>> moved until I was able to find the corrupt message(s).
>>>
>>> Those I could not move until I manually edited the message using 
>>> BBedit to correct the issue.  It was usually a corrupt line in the 
>>> header or a missing end of message line.  Thunderbird and Postbox 
>>> keep message folders as very  big files and use special lines in the 
>>> files to indicate where messages begin and end.  If even one byte of 
>>> one of these lines is wrong the whole thing goes wrong very quickly.
>>>
>>> I usually found these in very old mail files that weren't used much 
>>> and had been moved from disk to disk or service to service and had 
>>> just degraded over time.
>>>
>>> I switched to Mailmate because I was having trouble with Postbox not 
>>> handling my messages very well any more (probably because of these 
>>> corrupt messages, but I cannot be sure). I had intended to move 
>>> stuff into Mailmate to clean up my mail archive and then move back 
>>> to Postbox. However, I found Mailmate a better client.
>>>
>>> I also must point out that Benny was very helpful and responsive to 
>>> my questions and helped with some other issues I had transitioning. 
>>> The developer of Postbox never responded to my requests for help 
>>> with my mail problems, so I had to learn all this myself.  Is 
>>> Thunderbird even actively supported anymore?
>>>
>>> -Helen
>>>
>>> On 14 May 2015, at 9:07, James Galvin wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/14/15 7:35 AM, Annamarie wrote:
>>>>> How difficult would it be to simply start using MM fresh? Leave 
>>>>> all
>>>>> those messages in the apps where they are now? Go reference them 
>>>>> when
>>>>> you need them - I realize that building an address list might take 
>>>>> a bit
>>>>> of time but maybe cumulatively not as much time as you've already 
>>>>> spent
>>>>> trying to get this to work?
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been shocked by how little I actually go back to old emails.
>>>>
>>>> My experience is the opposite.  For my day job, email addressed to 
>>>> me is quite valuable and necessarily retained, for a variety of 
>>>> reasons I won't detail here.  Ready access is essential.
>>>>
>>>> By the way, I have email going back at least 25 years, that is not 
>>>> included in this MailMate transition.  It's only accessible on old 
>>>> desktops and laptops that I keep around just to have access to the 
>>>> archives.  Interestingly, MailMate presents an opportunity for me 
>>>> to bring forward some of these archives, which would be a big win 
>>>> for me. However, I'll have to be wary of reaching a size limit as 
>>>> discussed elsewhere in this thread.
>>>>
>>>> And some of that old email has proved quite valuable.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
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