[MlMt] giving up - MailMate crash - won't synchronize

[James Galvin]

On 5/13/15 12:42 PM, Patrik Fältström wrote:
> MailMate also work for me with 1.8M messages, three IMAP accounts etc. But not more than I think 30k messages in one mailbox.

I should clarify that by "mailbox" I meant the total IMAP account when I 
said 100,000 vs 15,000 messages.


> Regarding the columns, I have sort of figured out I think they are "per mailbox", or something in that direction.

As I recall, it worked just as I expected with the one account.  Once I 
set "default columns" every mailbox I went to used them.  If I changed 
the columns on any mailbox then the settings for that mailbox were sticky.

I really liked MM and I'd like to see it work.

Jim




>
> Can that be true?
>
> So the differences seems to be that you have tons of messages in one mailbox plus that you use GMail.
>
>     Patrik
>
> On 13 May 2015, at 18:32, James Galvin wrote:
>
>> I can't use Mail anymore because MacOS broke it when they tried to get smart with GMail.  I otherwise found Mail tolerable in the same way I find Thunderbird tolerable now.
>>
>> I'm running Yosemite 10.10.2 on this laptop, which is otherwise a 13" MacBook straight from the factory.  A few applications installed for work but otherwise virgin.  Had it two years now.
>>
>> Suggestions or hints on how to isolate the problem are welcome.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>
>>
>> On 5/13/15 12:26 PM, Barton Lipman wrote:
>>> I don't have the same size account as Joe, but will second his
>>> endorsement. I was also using Mail.app and found it way too slow. I've
>>> never had the kind of problems with MailMate you describe and think
>>> there must be something wrong in your configuration or some process
>>> that's interfering in some way.
>>>
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Bart
>>>
>>> On 13 May 2015, at 12:12, Joe Abley wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Jim!
>>>
>>> I use MailMate with gmail and IMAP mailboxes, five accounts total,
>>> with somewhere in the region of 5 million messages between them and
>>> something like 25,000 in the combined inbox.
>>>
>>> I have experienced none of the problems you describe.
>>>
>>> I mention this not to call you a liar :-) but rather because perhaps
>>> it points to a problem somewhere else in your environment; I'm
>>> running the latest yosemite on an 11" macbook air, installed from
>>> scratch (no upgrades or transfers from any previous laptop or OS).
>>> If the history of the OS on your machine is more extensive than
>>> that, perhaps there's some old cruft that is causing your problems.
>>> Worth a look, anyway if you want to try harder with MailMate.
>>>
>>> I used Mail.app before Mailmate, and only stopped because I have too
>>> much mail for Mail.app to be able to thread properly. I gather this
>>> is a known issue with the hash function used to index messages, but
>>> having been through multiple point and major releases of OS X
>>> waiting for a fix, I finally gave up and switched. MailMate doesn't
>>> suffer from that problem, and now that I'm used to it I can't
>>> imagine switching back even if Apple's mail team got their act together.
>>>
>>> I've never been able to stand thunderbird. It has too much of the
>>> stench of GNU about it, with the attendant disastrous
>>> design-by-engineer/late-90s-X-windows design aesthetic. :-)
>>>
>>> Joe
>>>
>>> On 13 May 2015, at 11:07, James Galvin wrote:
>>>
>>>      I have spent almost 3 weeks trying to migrate to MailMate but
>>>      unfortunately there is something wrong.
>>>
>>>      This past weekend I submitted several crash dumps, just in case
>>>      anyone here can check those.
>>>
>>>      Sending a message here is my last hope so here goes.
>>>
>>>       1.
>>>
>>>          I use Thunderbird now. It works for me just fine although it
>>>          has one issue I've learned to accept. I was hoping to get
>>>          past this issue with MailMate, especially given the high
>>>          recommendations it gets. I've used MacOS Mail before but
>>>          with Yosemite that stopped working with Google Apps. Mail
>>>          tried to be too smart and it failed miserably but that's a
>>>          separate discussion.
>>>
>>>       2.
>>>
>>>          I have 4 IMAP accounts, 2 of which are Google Apps based.
>>>          The first time I tried a migration I just imported all 4
>>>          accounts using MailMate and let it go to work. This never
>>>          worked. It would crash if I ever tried to use it while it
>>>          was synchronizing. So, I bailed, removed the accounts and
>>>          started over with just one.
>>>
>>>       3.
>>>
>>>          MailMate worked great when I imported 1 account. I used it
>>>          for a week and was finally getting used to the changes when
>>>          I decided to import another account.
>>>
>>>       4.
>>>
>>>          Importing the second account has never worked.
>>>
>>>      a. MM crashes randomly. I have submitted some of the crash
>>>      reports I encountered though not all.
>>>
>>>      b. MM never sticks the default columns. I always have to revert
>>>      a display to the default columns. This randomly causes crashes.
>>>
>>>      c. Switching mailboxes randomly causes crashes.
>>>
>>>      d. Synchronizing has never completed on the second mailbox. The
>>>      account always shows a spinning wheel. I have removed and
>>>      restarted the import several times. I removed MM and reinstalled
>>>      once. I let the synchronizing run with an otherwise idle laptop
>>>      for almost 3 days over a weekend and it never ended. When I look
>>>      at the activity window it is actively stepping through messages
>>>      on this one account.
>>>
>>>      e. Oddly, the header line of "Trial day # of 30" randomly shows
>>>      it is day 3, 4, 5, or 6, always. As I said, I'm almost at the
>>>      end of 3 weeks now.
>>>
>>>      f. The mailbox in question is 1/5 the size of the first mailbox.
>>>      The first mailbox has almost 100,000 messages in it total. This
>>>      mailbox has less than 15,000.
>>>
>>>      I'm willing to start this process one more time if anyone
>>>      happens to have a specific suggestion on steps I could take to
>>>      better monitor the problem and see specifically what is going
>>>      wrong. I'm also wondering if submitting crash dumps is actually
>>>      helpful.
>>>
>>>      I'm willing to believe there might be something about my laptop
>>>      given that MM has so much success with so many people but I'm at
>>>      a loss to know what that is. This is a work laptop so it only
>>>      has what it expressly needs loaded on it.
>>>
>>>      Any thoughts from anyone?
>>>
>>>      Jim
>>>
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