[MlMt] Close to pulling trigger.

[Robert Garcia]

The experiment you did with apple mail and syncing, was next on my list 
to try. I will do some research and see if I can find some api to get at 
VIP data stored in the cloud.

-- 
Robert Garcia
BigHead Technology
15520 Coutolenc Rd
Magalia, Ca 95954
ph: 530.645.4040 fax: 530.645.4040
rgarcia at bighead.net - http://bighead.net/
On 5 Dec 2014, at 23:55, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 5 Dec 2014, at 19:23, Robert Garcia wrote:
>
>> I manage several clients and our own mail server for all of them. I 
>> have moved myself and several of my largest clients off of gmail 
>> (gapps) email and onto our own mail server, zarafa, which has been 
>> working fine. Most of us use macs and have been using Airmail as the 
>> client, which works pretty well with Gmail. Airmail 2 came out and it 
>> has tons of issues and takes up tons of CPU, etc. Also has bugs with 
>> Zarafa.
>
> I don't really know Zarafa and I don't know if MailMate has any issues 
> with it, but you can let me know if anything turns up.
>
>> Mailmate would not win a beauty contest, but it works great. I felt 
>> it was sluggish and piggy, like apple mail, then I found the latest 
>> 64 bit version. Wow, so smooth, nice, doesn't use much cpu, that made 
>> everything better.
>
> Well that's good news for the 64 bit version. Thanks.
>
>> Before I recommend this to the rest of my family and clients, though, 
>> I am struggling with one issue. How to make some type of smart folder 
>> with VIP users? We all user our iPhones and iPads and use VIP, and 
>> when your desktop client doesn't comply, it makes it tough. It is 
>> probably the only single feature that pulls me back to apple mail.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>
> To be honest I haven't really looked into how Apple Mail implements 
> VIPs. For MailMate to support it, 2 things need to be possible:
>
> * MailMate should be able to retrieve VIP addresses from Contacts.
> * MailMate should be able to enable/disable the VIP status of a 
> contact.
>
> The first one is probably more important to you than the second one. 
> MailMate is actually quite badly integrated with Contacts since it's 
> not possible to do queries (smart mailboxes and rules) based on groups 
> in Contacts. This is a relatively high priority and a frequent 
> request, but I cannot give you a time frame. It would be natural to 
> look into VIP compatability at the same time.
>
> A quick search does not reveal an official API to access this 
> information, but I might not have looked hard enough. It also looks 
> like it's an Apple Mail feature and if synchronization requires Apple 
> Mail to be running then there is no way to hack VIP compatibility :-(
>
> Ok, quick experiment. I used Apple Mail to mark a VIP sender. This 
> showed up in the following file:
>
> 	~/Library/Mail/V2/MailData/VIPSenders.plist
>
> I quit Apple Mail, logged into iCloud webmail, and removed the VIP 
> sender. I waited a while to see if the change was synchronized to the 
> file above. This did not happen. I then launched Apple Mail and the 
> file was immediately updated. Unless I missed something then that is 
> bad news for the potential future of full VIP compatibility — not 
> even as a horrible hack.
>
> -- 
> Benny
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