[MlMt] Offline directories

Gustavo Daniel Villarreal irongus at gmail.com
Wed Mar 13 19:47:56 UTC 2013


I understand. Yes I am convinced in buying MailMate; there are still a 
few features I will be missing from Mail, such as data detectors, and 
I'm also not sure how incoming filters work yet, or if they are 
available at all, but MailMate has other features that now I realise I 
need, such as Markdown support and the empty default Search view, which 
is great as Im searching mail all day…

I also just realised I don't really need to open Mail to search historic 
mail, I can do that with Spotlight and QuickLook, as you suggest.

Thanks.

On 13 Mar 2013, at 13:34, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:

> On 13 Mar 2013, at 19:23, Gustavo Daniel Villarreal wrote:
>
>> I am on my final days of evaluation of MailMate and I really like a 
>> lot of things and I have decided to buy it,
>
> Thanks for trying out MailMate. I hope you'll still consider using 
> MailMate even though the answers below are probably now what you were 
> hoping for.
>
>> but I don't see an option to store offline mail, eg., local folders.
>
> Correct, there is no such option.
>
>> Since Mountain Lion, Mail.app has been constantly using 30-40% CPU, 
>> I've seen this issue on more machines than just mine, and it doesn't 
>> look like it will go away soon. MailMate so far has not had this 
>> problem, but it also doesn't have my ~30GB of archived offline mail 
>> directories…
>
> The performance bottleneck in MailMate is the number of messages and 
> not the size of the messages. In other words, if you have a million 
> messages in those ~30GB then MailMate is going to be worse than Apple 
> Mail. If you have 100K messages then it should be ok (I only have ~30K 
> messages myself). I think the most I have been told to work in 
> MailMate is 400K messages, but I believe that requires both a fast 
> machine and plenty of memory. Part of the reason for this is that 
> MailMate puts all messages in one big pool which means that messages 
> you rarely access still hurt performance. (Some day I'll hopefully 
> have time to look into more optimizations.)
>
>> So far I have not seen an option that allows for offline mail as a 
>> destination for imported mail or if there's an option to create local 
>> folders on the Mac (I've read the manual online) so I open Mail when 
>> I need to search beyond what I have on IMAP.
>
> This is probably also the best strategy for now. Personally I would 
> consider just having the old emails stored as plain text messages and 
> then use `grep` in the Terminal to search them. And then I would 
> probably make it easier to review messages in MailMate without 
> importing them although this is also possible [using Quick 
> Look](http://www.macworld.com/article/1131923/qlterminal.html).
>
>> Does MailMate only work with online IMAP stores?
>
> MailMate only works with IMAP, but the IMAP server can be located 
> anywhere including on the same machine as MailMate.
>
>> I could buy the Server app for Mac OS X and import my offline 
>> messages to its IMAP server, but it sounds like I might be overdoing 
>> it.
>
> A major problem is then the duplication of messages since MailMate 
> insists on fetching all messages in full. In particular when you have 
> 30GB.
>
> -- 
> Benny
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