[MlMt] From "XXX via mailmate"[long story]

[Henry Seiden]

Antonio,

We are using a MailMate User Group here as you can see created on a 
listserv from the email delivery info shown on each message delivered to 
your inbox or visible on the website, it’s a standard Python Mailman 
v2.1.26 service that is used, which you can use yourself. Free from 
[this dev group](https://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html).

You can either answer in an email repay or from the [web link provided 
on each message](https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate). Not a big 
problem either way. This particular server is open source and used by 
multiple organizations and developers around the world to host a mailing 
list (AKA listserv).

The settings are therefore prescribed by the User Group’s 
implementation set up and I think Benny has done a good job following 
prescribed formats to use it or the web based setup, The version is an 
early one and the latest versions quoted on their web site may behave 
differently. Upgrading is up to the person running the listserv. Don’t 
know if the MM developer (Benny) has time for that kind of stuff. This 
version works well enough for me.

For me, the address From: field always says, “MailMate Users 
<mailmate at lists.freron.com>” If I click reply, when receiving such an 
email from a member of this group like you, that is what always appears 
in that field which gets moved to the To: (Sender Field). MailMate makes 
that decision from the metadata in Reply-to: field.

It’s possible that the field is driven simply by how replies are 
generated and processed at the listserv,  as John pointed out. It’s 
not Mailmate’s job.

Within the body of the email message, it treats multiple replies within 
a thread that are quoted with the headline, “On <date> at <time>, 
<reply name> wrote:” Is there a problem and/or abnormality for you 
there?

MM does its thing to add a line similar to the quoted portion of the 
email for threaded replies in email. It all seems normal to me.

Does *this format* follow what you are seeing/expecting in the way 
you’re reading it? Maybe cutting and pasting an example of what you do 
and when you see anything different, if the case, would be helpful to 
those trying to help you figure it out.

Respectfully,

Henry Seiden
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On 19 Dec 2023, at 15:09, Antonio Leding wrote:

> OK - thanks for clarifying.  I thought the “XXX” was something 
> specific to MailMate that was new.  I checked all of the MM related 
> messages I have and I see the same thing; some have the “via 
> mailmate” and others don’t.  I always figured it was due to the 
> sending host config or maybe an intermediate mail server action…
>
> As to why it “matters” to me - two reasons really: **(a)** as you 
> mentioned, curiosity; and **(b)** more technically, to understand if 
> there any issues with having “via mailmate” in the from field?
>
> - - -
>
> On 19 Dec 2023, at 11:42, John Cooper wrote:
>
>> Antonio Leding wrote (at 10:56 AM on Tuesday, December 19, 2023):
>>
>>> 1) What does “XXX via mailmate” mean?
>>>
>>> 2) Why does it need to change?
>>>
>>> On 19 Dec 2023, at 4:42, MM_Arc via mailmate wrote:
>>>
>>>> I notice that some posts on the list have the format “XXX via 
>>>> mailmate” and others don’t.
>>>>
>>>> I’m trying to figure out the reason why and how this can be 
>>>> changed.
>>
>> Antonio,
>>
>> "XXX" is a placeholder. If you gather messages to the MailMate list 
>> together, you'll see that the From field for some of them is the name 
>> of the sender, together with sender's personal address. Others have 
>> the name of the sender with "via mailmate" appended, together with 
>> the list address. Marc is trying to figure out why. He may have a 
>> task-related reason for that, or he may simply want to know in order 
>> to better understand MailMate and mail systems in general. Why does 
>> it matter to you?
>>
>> I don't know the answer, but I wonder if it has something to do with 
>> people who send to the list via the web page versus their personal 
>> instance of MailMate.
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