[MlMt] server is lost; disconnects; fails

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On 5/27/26 12:58, Randall Gellens wrote:
> On 26 May 2026, at 15:14, Tracy wrote:
>
>> hello again.  Yes I did quit the list, but signed back up because I 
>> found the issue and did not want to leave the issue hanging.
>>
>> This took me forever to figure out, but setting up IMAP on port 993 
>> with TLS/SSL will continually drop the connection, if it ever 
>> connects in the first place. DH  (Dreamhost) uses STARTTLS, and 
>> setting the port to 993 forces the client to start connecting in 
>> encrypted mode. So to begin a connection one needs to choose port 143 
>> instead. That will instigate a negotiation through to STARTTLS, as 
>> the DH wiki notes. The DH main email documentation says that the 
>> correct setting is 993. That setting will FAIL . For email to connect 
>> the correct setting is incoming IMAP on port 143 with Use TLS/SSL 
>> checked. 
>
> When you were using port 993 with TLS and it kept disconnecting, did 
> MailMate ever download any mail?
>
The server of his provider has a bad SSL configuration on port 993 with 
self-signed cert. That's a why SSL sometimes works and then drops off.
MM needs to be configured correctly, like other Poweruser-Mail-Clients 
and MM is the best in this field currently - after PowerMail ;-)
Sadly only available for Mac.
The automatism of Apple's Mail and Thunderbird are working around this, 
by probing, which can  trigger the firewall of the mailserver.

This makes these apps comfortable, overloaded and memory hungry with 
calendar and other gimmiks.
Mailmate is just doing one thing: IMAP-mail and it does this perfectly, 
when configured correctly.

cheers

Matthias