[MlMt] Weird problem with Spamsieve

[David R. Oran]

On 9 Jul 2026, at 12:55, Robert Brenstein wrote:

> Check out the old threads for other suggestions. My main symptom was beachballing when any action required spamsieve, that is new mails or when I set an email as spam. Beachballing by new mails was easy to see since spamsieve icons was getting red down arrow on the dock. An escape suggested by someone was to switch to spamsieve rather than wait for timeout. Ah, memory recall got triggered: my underlaying problem was some disk corruption as it turned out. After I booted into safe mode and ran diskcheck, which reported fixing something, the settings for full disk access started sticking and the problem went away.
>
Thanks, but no joy. I ran first aid from recovery, it found a few warnings but no real problems. After reboot I turned full disk access off and on for both Mailmate and Spamsieve. No change. Still beachballs.

> On 9 Jul 2026, at 15:39, David R. Oran wrote:
>
>> On 9 Jul 2026, at 8:45, Robert Brenstein wrote:
>>
>>> There were exchanges on such issues on this mailing list not long ago. For me, the solution was to give full disk access to both mailmate and spamsieve. Some of these settings did not want to stick, but once they did, the problem went away.
>>>
>> Thanks. Yeah I tried that back then to no effect. I just tried again (turning it off and bak on again) and Mailmate still behaves as before. it doesn’t beachball *every* time. but certainly 75% of the time or more.
>>
>>> Robert
>>>
>>> On 9 Jul 2026, at 14:25, David R. Oran wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don’t want to bother Benny with this, as I suspect I may be the only one having this problem and it likely isn’t due directly to anything in Mailmate itself. Perhaps somebody on the list might have clue. It’s been happening for a couple of months now, but I can’t seem to relate when it started to anything in particular.
>>>>
>>>> Here’s the problem.
>>>> - I have Spamsieve enabled on incoming mail in my set of InBoxes.
>>>> - Spamsieve is running.
>>>> - New mail shows up on the IMAP connection to my mail account. Mailmate beachballs for anywhere from 20 seconds to a minute or so. It seems stuck waiting on Spamsieve.
>>>> - If I click on Spamsieve explicitly, the spam check finishes immediately and Mailmate becomes responsive.
>>>>
>>>> Most of my Spam is caught first by Spamassasin on my mail server, so the majority is in the Junk folder already and doesn’t have a Spamsieve score. However.
>>>>
>>>> - If I go into the Junk folder, select one or more messages, and explicitly invoke Spamsieve to score them, the beachball happens just as with new incoming mail.
>>>>
>>>> Something is happening with inter-process communication here, but I can’t figure out what, or where to look in my Mac’s settings for clue.
>>>>
>>>> Possibly relevant: if for yucks I launch Apple mail which also has Spamsieve set up, and mail comes in, Apple mail doesn’t beachball communicating with Spamsieve.
>>>>
>>>> Clue bat?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> DaveO
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