[MlMt] tags associated with messages

aisrael alain.israel at pasteur.fr
Tue Dec 3 06:57:10 EST 2024


Dear Scott, can you explain how you modified the DevonThink Pro command 
to accommodate the tags (I use Devonthink 3, but I guess it makes no 
difference)? I normally use Mail archiver X to archive my emails, but 
this app does not recognize the tags.

Regarding Mailmate and Preside, I have 2 accounts : one is based on an 
Exchange server (this is the one where I have most of my tags), and the 
tags are not maintained, neither from Preside to Mailmate, nor the 
reverse. My second account is not Exchange-based, and the tags are 
correctly maintained in both directions (but unfortunately this is the 
account that contains very few tags). And I doubt the IT service of a 
3000 people research institution will move away from Exchange just 
because I want to keep my tags.

Alain

On 2 Dec 2024, at 23:15, Scott wrote:

> On 3 December 2024, at 0544, Steve Mayer via mailmate wrote:
>
>> I’m able to see tags on messages that I’ve applied in MailMate 
>> with Preside on iOS and vice versa.  As far as I know the tags are 
>> IMAP Keywords which should be stored with the message in the IMAP 
>> store.
>>
>
> As the kids said a few years ago:  This is the way.
>
> As others have pointed out, getting Tags to work between devices, and 
> even between applications on the same device, is essentially down to 
> the IMAP server itself and the support for IMAP Keywords it has.
>
> In addition to Preside working for iOS (and, indeed, being a 
> spectacular way to help view/clean-up your tags, if your IMAP server 
> supports them), I've had great results with:
>
> o  Mutt
> o  neomutt
> o  Roundcube webmail
>
> The latter did require an old plugin and a bit of tweaking, but, it 
> confirmed that MailMate was doing the right thing by the IMAP servers 
> I use (Dovecot, Cyrus).
>
> For email archiving from MailMate, I also modified the "DevonThink 
> Pro" command to respect tags from MailMate and save them as tags in 
> DevonThink.
>
> It's rather frustrating that support isn't more ubiquitous, but, these 
> combinations have worked very well and consistently for me.
>
> Scott
>
>
>
>
>
>> Steve Mayer
>> smayer69 at me.com
>>
>> On 2 Dec 2024, at 12:36, Henry Seiden wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Jeff,
>>>
>>> After comparing a tagged email on another machine running the same 
>>> version, I found that the tag was NOT visible when applied to an 
>>> incoming message there. Therefore it is only applied only to the 
>>> locally stored incoming message filed at the local user.
>>>
>>> OTOH if your outgoing message has a tag applied, you could check to 
>>> see if that tag gets transferred to the message headers and somehow 
>>> would be decoded by MM at other machines. So, ig your question is 
>>> whether a tag is attached to outgoing messages that might be a 
>>> different scenario.
>>>
>>> You would likely have to move the massages themselves. There is np 
>>> instruction that I could find about migrating tagged messages or 
>>> databases containing header information when moving to a new 
>>> machine.
>>>
>>> Respectfully,
>>>
>>> Henry Seiden
>>> - -
>>> Techworks Pro Co.
>>> E: info<at>techworkspro<dot>com
>>> W: 
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>>>
>>> On 2 Dec 2024, at 12:04, Jeff Bullard via mailmate wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I followed [these 
>>>> instructions](https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2016-January/005542.html__;!!JFdNOqOXpB6UZW0!tDAPaK7mAiR7WIfPC9k1WJ46VVRvthEJxzZd2wFU6p24p3ENMhU24UjJxu0u33MmMI5EbXEmzHgpJbqlGXnjIw$ 
>>>> ) on the forum from 2016 for “syncing” the settings between two 
>>>> devices (*i.e.*, copying the `.plist` files when MailMate is shut 
>>>> down on both devices).  This worked for most things except that the 
>>>> messages I have tagged on the source device are still not tagged on 
>>>> the destination device.  Do I need to copy over the Database folder 
>>>> or the Messages folder for that to work?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> —Jeff
>
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