[MlMt] app specific password??

[Bill Cole]

On 2023-08-14 at 12:18:47 UTC-0400 (Mon, 14 Aug 2023 09:18:47 -0700)
Jo <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
is rumored to have said:

>> "By the continue on your device(s) message in iCloud it’s telling you to use the device needed and the application on that device for that password. Doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong so far. So let’s look at MM, where of course you’ve already entered the new app-specific password appropriately."
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> Except I did NOT create a new app specific password, I merely NAMED it 'mailmate' — I never got to a screen that asked me to enter an actual password. that's what I'm saying, it just kept taking me back to the beginning again.

It never lets you enter a password of your choice. It GIVES YOU a password it has created after you give it a name. The display (on Safari) looks like the attached image.

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> On 14 Aug 2023, at 3:53, Henry Seiden wrote:
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>> Jo,
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>> What I can’t tell in iCloud (without doing what you did - removing/replacing the original password) is when you did that did the old app-specific password(s) disappear. I suspect they did, but don’t know for sure if that’s so. I found a post in [Apple Community discussions](https://discussions.apple.com/thread/252417570) that a user says that it is so. So based on your experience and theirs, I would agree with you.
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>> It sounds like you have now created a new app-specific password, it’s the only one there and it exists and you have named it. So, that should be it. The thing is the **ONLY** place to see/confirm it is on the iCloud.com web site.
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>> You won’t see it in the Mac (System Settings) or iPhone settings. So I believe you are correct that any previous settings were cleared as a result of your password change. If you care to complain about that possible issue, the place to go is Apple Support.
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>> And you should of course make note of it.  Why? Because in MM(MailMate) it won’t be visible either (security) even though it can be copied as a setting to use if migrating to another machine in the future.
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>> By the continue on your device(s) message in iCloud it’s telling you to use the device needed and the application on that device for that password. Doesn’t sound like you did anything wrong so far. So let’s look at MM, where of course you’ve already entered the new *app-specific password* appropriately.
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>> Going to MM… The menu Edit IMAP setting should indicate whether that password is now working for you there. In MM you input that *app-specific* password **INSTEAD** of the regular iCloud account password for MM’s IMAP Server and SMTP Server. Have you tried that? Sometimes if MM has trouble it will pop up the warning screen for the password to enter. You can enter it there or in Edit IMAP settings.
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>> Within MM’s edit IMAP settings, don’t forget to Apply your changes.
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>> How to check in MM that all is well? Click the edit subscriptions button to see if the screen populates with the server mailboxes showing (tells you that MM is communicating with the iCloud server). If it is, then all your mail should be showing up. Please confirm.
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>> Respectfully,
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>> Henry Seiden
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>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 21:42, Jo wrote:
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>>> OK, this is what happens. I go to icloud.com and sign in. That all works fine with my new password (this is on my macbook). I click on App Specific Passwords and it tells me I have none (I know I have created at least one in the past, not sure if it was for MM or not, I forget). So I click on the button that says 'generate an app specific password.' I name this 'mailmate.' That takes me to the message 'C, ontinue on one of your devices
>>> On an iPhone, iPad or iPod touch go to Settings > Apple ID. On a Mac go to System Preferences or System Settings > Apple ID.'
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>>> OK, so I go to my phone, to settings/apple ID. There's nothing there that seems to be encouraging me to continue. 2 factor ID is on. I look under Password & Security, nothing about app specific passwords there. Can't find anything anywhere that appears to help.
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>>> I go back to the macbook and hit the ok button underneath the previous instructions to continue on another device, but nothing happens there either. It just takes me back to the beginning.
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>>> what am I doiing wrong??
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>>> (to be clear, this was all working just fine before I changed my apple ID password a few days ago - I was receiving my icloud mail via MM no problem - and yes I've updated the password in the IMAP account settings with the new apple ID password)
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>>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 18:10, Henry Seiden wrote:
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>>>> Jo,
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>>>> You create an app specific password in iCloud.com. However, you need to enable two-factor first. Then you can create the app-specific password there.  Maybe that’s why things are different with the changes you made?
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>>>> Here’s an [Apple Support document on implementing app-specific passwords](https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204397).
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>>>> I label my own app-specific passwords with the apps they are used with for clarity in iCloud.com and in my local password manager(mSecure).
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>>>> All version of MailMate have no problem using the third party passwords once updated in iCloud. If you changed your base password in iCloud that is the first place to look to confirm its settings are still in place. Usually they stay put, I have not seen them change for this reason, but recommend that you check your iCloud.
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>>>> On 13 Aug 2023, at 19:55, Jo wrote:
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>>>>> My error message suggests I might need an app specific password which I vaguely remember doing before, but I can't seem to create one._______________________________________________
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>>> Jo
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>>> Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for
>>> word what you shouldn't have said.
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> Jo
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> Children seldom misquote you. In fact, they usually repeat word for
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