[MlMt] MailMate, Gmail, & OAUTH2 verification

[Antonio Leding]

Don’t wanna dig into this very much here but in those cases, I would 
personally give a warning to the user and if they didn’t take heed, 
then disable forwarding for them or the entire organization.

I haven’t had to do this myself but I have seen it discussed…

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On 20 May 2022, at 11:48, Sam Birch wrote:

> On 20 May 2022, at 14:37, Antonio Leding wrote:
>
>> “…how much of a hassle maintaining an email server is…”
>>
>> I would disagree here - I’ve been running my own Postfix + Dovecot 
>> server for over 9 years with very little maintenance or headache.  I 
>> will concede a small bit of an initial learning curve but that exists 
>> with any tech so I chalk that up to education.  Once I got it up and 
>> running, maintenance has been minimal as it pretty much just runs…
>
> I’m glad you’ve had an easy time of things.
>
> I administrate an Exim + SpamAssassin + ClamAV + Dovecot system with 
> around sixty users. For me the biggest source of problems is when my 
> users configure their accounts to forward messages to one of the big 
> webmail providers. As I’m sure you know, this inevitably results in 
> spam being forwarded, despite pretty aggressive filtering at SMTP 
> time. Despite my best efforts, Google or Microsoft wake up some days 
> and decide to blackball my mail server, and their policies are so 
> opaque that it’s impossible to understand how to get back into their 
> good graces.
>
> It’s shit like that that’s worth $5/month to me, and why I don’t 
> use my own mail service any more.
>
> Cheers,
> -sam
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