[MlMt] Switching to Fastmail: some questions

Ralph Alvy ralph at ralphalvy.com
Thu Jul 22 16:05:26 EDT 2021


Thanks to both Ethan and Glenn. Very helpful answers.

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On July 22, 2021 12:35:17 PM Ethan Schoonover <es at ethanschoonover.com> wrote:
> My mistake on using that term. Fastmail has labels only. -Ethan
> On 22 Jul 2021, at 12:33, Ralph Alvy wrote:
> Fastmail had Labels AND Tags? Or are are you using the word 'Tags' when you 
> really mean 'Labels'?
> On 22 Jul 2021, at 11:11, Ethan Schoonover wrote:
> I am a Fastmail (and obviously MailMate) user. Excellent service.
>
> ## Labels
>
> Until just now I’ve never used the labels feature on Fastmail. I tested it 
> based on your question. Notes:
>
> 1. Labels on Fastmail are activated via Fastmail settings. The choice is 
> between using Folders OR Lables (it’s a radio button toggle).
>
> 2. The choice is reversible (you may switch back and forth between labels 
> and folders non destructively)
>
> 3. Switching between Labels and Tags in Fastmail is instantaneous. The UI 
> and behavior changes (or reverts) instantly.
>
> 4. In the web UI for Fastmail, tags act just as Gmail tags do (in terms of 
> user experience, not backend implementation). Messages may have multiple tags.
>
> 5. **These Fastmail tags show up as FOLDERS in MailMate**
>
> 6. I don’t see any way to utilize these as tags in MailMate (i.e. I see no 
> way to assign a message to multiple folders when they are acting as tags in 
> Fastmail)
>
> 7. While Fastmail is operating in “tag mode” - If you delete a tagged 
> message in MailMate from one of the “tag folders”, the tag is removed from 
> that message in the FastMail web UI
>
> 8. When you revert Fastmail to “folder mode” messages tagged with multiple 
> tags are seen and act as unique messages.
>
>>
> ## Contacts
>
> In terms of contacts, I maintain most of my contacts in iCloud, but I have 
> tested the contacts with Fastmail as well. It’s arbitrary as far as 
> MailMate is concerned.
>
> One note about Fastmail contacts: you can create a shared contact book if 
> you have multiple Fastmail users on your account. I do this and maintain a 
> contact book that is “read only” for my kids so that I can keep certain 
> contacts updated for them.
>
> We all then subscribe to this contact book in the macOS Contacts app.
>
>
> Happy to answer more questions based on my experience with Fastmail.
>
> Cheers,
> Ethan
>
>
> On 22 Jul 2021, at 10:13, Ralph Alvy wrote:
> Well, Tuffmail is sadly ending operations on January 1, so I'm seriously 
> considering moving to Fastmail. That said, I have a couple questions.
>
> 1. I see that Fastmail supports its own version of Labels. Is there 
> something in Mailmate that will recognize those Labels? Perhaps Mailmate Tags?
>
> 2. I see that Fastmail has its own Contacts module, but that doesn't 
> support synchronization with Google Contacts. Will I need to import my 
> Google Contacts into Fastmail Contacts for Mailmate to see my Contacts when 
> composing a message? Or does Fastmail use my Mac Addressbook for 
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