[MlMt] "Software Update Disabled" (Eric Sharakan)

[Tracy Valleau]

Try this:

find Mailmate in your apps folder.
Hold down the command key and drag it to the desktop
Again, hold down the command key and drag it back into the apps folder.

See if it works.

Tracy Valleau
tracy at valleau.art

On 10 Mar 2020, at 9:00, mailmate-request at lists.freron.com wrote:

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>    1. "Software Update Disabled" (Thomas Baker)
>    2. Re: condition for over a month (or two) old (Randy Bush)
>    3. Re: condition for over a month (or two) old (Robert Brenstein)
>    4. Re: "Software Update Disabled" (Eric Sharakan)
>    5. Re: condition for over a month (or two) old (Randy Bush)
>    6. Re: "Software Update Disabled" (Thomas Baker)
>    7. Re: "Software Update Disabled" (Denis Ricard)
>    8. Re: "Software Update Disabled" (Thomas Baker)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 11:00:43 +0100
> From: Thomas Baker <tom at tombaker.org>
> To: mailmate at lists.freron.com
> Subject: [MlMt] "Software Update Disabled"
> Message-ID: <20200310100042.GA18485 at cicero.speedport.ip>
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> I am trying to set up MailMate on macOS Catalina 10.15.3.
> When I open MailMate, I get a message:
>
>     Software Update Disabled
>
>     MailMate is running on a read-only file system and
>     can therefore not be updated.
>
>     If you downloaded MailMate from the internet then
>     moving it out of the Downloads folder should solve
>     the problem.
>
> I installed from MailMateBeta.tbz into the /Applications
> folder.  The permissions of that folder were initially:
>
>     drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 96 Oct 24 15:33 MailMate.app/
>
> I changed the permissions to my personal account:
>
>     drwxr-xr-x 3 tbaker staff 96 Oct 24 15:33 MailMate.app/
>
> But I still get the message.
>
> I suppose I could just check the box for "Do not show
> this message again", but I'd like to understand what
> folder MailMate thinks is read-only (and whether this
> could cause trouble in other ways).
>
> Many thanks,
> Tom
>
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 03:57:37 -0700
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> To: "Patrik Fältström via mailmate"  <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] condition for over a month (or two) old
> Message-ID: <m2wo7seau6.wl-randy at psg.com>
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> doh.  thanks.  i had not explored the sub-selectors of 'date.'  silly
> me.
>
> thanks again.
>
> randy
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 12:13:45 +0100
> From: "Robert Brenstein" <mailmate at learning-insights.eu>
> To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] condition for over a month (or two) old
> Message-ID:
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> I find that date-received is more reliable than just date. I think
> because it comes from MM.
>
> On 10 Mar 2020, at 11:57, Randy Bush wrote:
>
>> doh.  thanks.  i had not explored the sub-selectors of 'date.'  silly
>> me.
>>
>> thanks again.
>>
>> randy
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 07:40:19 -0400
> From: "Eric Sharakan" <esharakan at gmail.com>
> To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] "Software Update Disabled"
> Message-ID: <812EE75B-A0A7-4EF9-B6A7-119F1F80DA29 at gmail.com>
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> Hi, In Catalina, the root filesystem is actually read-only, and MacOS
> performs some interesting tricks to make that work while allowing 
> third
> party SW to be installed, making it generally completely invisible to
> users.  So perhaps you somehow copied MailMate into this read-only
> partition?
>
> To see the "writeable" /Applications folder, look at
> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/ in Terminal.  If MailMate is not in
> there, then you need to move it there.  If it is there, make sure 
> there
> are no other copies anywhere.  If it still fails, this could be a bug 
> in
> the Beta version of MailMate.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> -Eric
>
> On 10 Mar 2020, at 6:00, Thomas Baker wrote:
>
>> I am trying to set up MailMate on macOS Catalina 10.15.3.
>> When I open MailMate, I get a message:
>>
>>     Software Update Disabled
>>
>>     MailMate is running on a read-only file system and
>>     can therefore not be updated.
>>
>>     If you downloaded MailMate from the internet then
>>     moving it out of the Downloads folder should solve
>>     the problem.
>>
>> I installed from MailMateBeta.tbz into the /Applications
>> folder.  The permissions of that folder were initially:
>>
>>     drwxr-xr-x 3 root wheel 96 Oct 24 15:33 MailMate.app/
>>
>> I changed the permissions to my personal account:
>>
>>     drwxr-xr-x 3 tbaker staff 96 Oct 24 15:33 MailMate.app/
>>
>> But I still get the message.
>>
>> I suppose I could just check the box for "Do not show
>> this message again", but I'd like to understand what
>> folder MailMate thinks is read-only (and whether this
>> could cause trouble in other ways).
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mailmate mailing list
>> mailmate at lists.freron.com
>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
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> Message: 5
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 04:46:35 -0700
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> To: "Robert Brenstein" <mailmate at learning-insights.eu>
> Cc: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] condition for over a month (or two) old
> Message-ID: <m2tv2we8kk.wl-randy at psg.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
>> I find that date-received is more reliable than just date.
>
> do not see.  see "Local"
>
>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 13:58:28 +0100
> From: Thomas Baker <tom at tombaker.org>
> To: MailMate Users <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] "Software Update Disabled"
> Message-ID: <20200310125828.GA29193 at cicero.speedport.ip>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 07:40:19AM -0400, Eric Sharakan wrote:
>> To see the "writeable" /Applications folder, look at
>> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/ in Terminal.  If MailMate is not
>> in there, then you need to move it there.
>
> It was already /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/ (with the 'tbaker
> staff' permissions as below).
>
>> If it is there, make sure
>> there are no other copies anywhere.
>
> A Spotlight search turns up just that one.
>
>> If it still fails, this could
>> be a bug in the Beta version of MailMate.
>
> Should I open an issue?
>
>> Hope this helps.
>
> I learned something (re: Catalina), but I guess the problem
> remains.  In the meantime, I guess I could just click on
> "Do not show this message again."...
>
> Many thanks,
> Tom
>
>>> I changed the permissions to my personal account:
>>>
>>>    drwxr-xr-x 3 tbaker staff 96 Oct 24 15:33 MailMate.app/
>
>
>
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 09:01:55 -0400
> From: "Denis Ricard" <d.ricard at me.com>
> To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] "Software Update Disabled"
> Message-ID: <80B625FD-2B24-4F74-A615-F07A8FBF0A0C at me.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Does Mailmate have ‘full disk access’ in your Privacy settings?
>
> On 10 Mar 2020, at 8:58, Thomas Baker wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 07:40:19AM -0400, Eric Sharakan wrote:
>>> To see the "writeable" /Applications folder, look at
>>> /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/ in Terminal.  If MailMate is not
>>> in there, then you need to move it there.
>>
>> It was already /System/Volumes/Data/Applications/ (with the 'tbaker
>> staff' permissions as below).
>>
>>> If it is there, make sure
>>> there are no other copies anywhere.
>>
>> A Spotlight search turns up just that one.
>>
>>> If it still fails, this could
>>> be a bug in the Beta version of MailMate.
>>
>> Should I open an issue?
>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>
>> I learned something (re: Catalina), but I guess the problem
>> remains.  In the meantime, I guess I could just click on
>> "Do not show this message again."...
>>
>> Many thanks,
>> Tom
>>
>>>> I changed the permissions to my personal account:
>>>>
>>>>    drwxr-xr-x 3 tbaker staff 96 Oct 24 15:33 MailMate.app/
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> mailmate mailing list
>> mailmate at lists.freron.com
>> https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2020 16:01:42 +0100
> From: Thomas Baker <tom at tombaker.org>
> To: Denis Ricard via mailmate <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] "Software Update Disabled"
> Message-ID: <20200310150142.GA31681 at cicero.speedport.ip>
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> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 09:01:55AM -0400, Mailmate Mailing List wrote:
>> Does Mailmate have ‘full disk access’ in your Privacy settings?
>
> I just enabled full disk access for MailMate but still get
> the message on startup.
>
> Tom
>
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