[MlMt] VPN conflicts

[Peter Borsella]

Thank you gain, Rob.  Your quite the detective, and I’m sorry about 
not giving more details.  Your guess is right about the PIA tool, and 
you’re also on the money about Gmail as Florida.  I’ll go ahead and 
run your additional investigative steps and get the results posted.  It 
may take me a bit of time (I’m also simultaneously working).

...Peter


On 23 Sep 2019, at 10:33, rob.mailmate at robertwillett.com wrote:

> Peter,
>
> You don't need to be a network engineer to get VPN's to work. Indeed 
> my 78 year old mother recently setup a VPN so she could access 
> location restricted TV series content by herself. I have to admit I 
> was a little surprised but hey ho....
>
> Anyway the key to getting help is to provide concise (but complete) 
> information in as simple a summary as possible. Including specific 
> information such as the names of the tool helps, e.g. Private Internet 
> Access tool doesn't give much to go on, if I search on that, I get 
> lots of VPN's that could be that, but none that is definitely that. 
> I'm guessing your service is from
>
> https://www.privateinternetaccess.com/
>
> but thats a guess.
>
> Noe the fact that you have outbound traffic issues makes me assume 
> that your network provider is external to your local network, and that 
> you possibly use an external mail provider, gmail is a guess but could 
> be anything. If I check your website, you're possibly based in Florida 
> but originally in Pennsylvania?
>
> Anyway, a quick check on your MX record seems to indicate that you're 
> using Google as your mail provider
>
> https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx?action=a%3awinnowmanagement.com&run=toolpage#
>
> Mmm... now Google might have put restrictions on how you access your 
> email account and you may have fallen foul of these. I have never used 
> Google for email so am now wholly in the dark.
>
> What I'd first of all do is:
>
> Connection to 'whatsmyip.com' and see what IP address you are 
> connecting to that website as. Write the address down.
> Then fire up your VPN and try and connect to 'whatsmyip.com' again and 
> now see what it says. Write the address down. If you can't connect to 
> whatsmyip.com then you have an outgoing fault and your VPN isn't 
> working properly. You will get a while new IP address if your VPN is 
> working.
> Open up a terminal window on your Mac. Got to 
> Applications->Utilities->Terminal. Type in nslookup news.bbc.co.uk and 
> cut and paste the output to a mail.
> If you have no issues connecting to whatsmyip.com, fire up mailmate, 
> open up the Activity Window in Windows->Activity viewer and try and 
> send an email. If it fails you should get an error log.
> Post all this into a mail we can see the error you are getting.
> Hope this helps.
>
> Rob
>
>
>
> On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:38, Peter Borsella wrote:
>
>> Hello, Rob,
>>
>> I’m not much of a network engineer, so I’m expecting I’ll need 
>> to explore more about what’s going on as I simultaneously learn.  
>> I’m encouraged that you find it surprising that I’m having 
>> difficulty with my VPN, having thought it was “normal.”
>>
>> I’m using the PIA (Private Internet Access) tool.  And, my problem 
>> is indeed related to outbound traffic, with Mailmate telling me that 
>> it can’t send messages, leaving them for re-attempts in my Draft 
>> folder.  I then turn on the VPN, close Mailmate, launch again, the 
>> mail goes out without a hitch.
>>
>> If there’s any more details I can provide to assist in trouble 
>> shooting this, any help would be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Peter
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:25, Rob Willett via mailmate wrote:
>>
>>> Peter,
>>>
>>> Your issue is very unlikely to be Mailmate, but rather how your VPN 
>>> is configured. I have 3 VPN providers as I have to have specific 
>>> ones for specific clients.
>>>
>>> Things that come to mind:
>>>
>>> 1,	As people have already said DNS may be one issue. You already 
>>> have suggestions for this.
>>> 2.	It may block outgoing traffic. You need to provide more 
>>> information on the VPN you use to know if this is an issue.
>>> 3.	You may your VPN doing some odd routing, so that stuff that 
>>> should be internal is going externally. Unlikely but seen it happen.
>>>
>>> Your comment that using a VPN and having expected issues is not what 
>>> I would expect at all. I would expect configuration issues with 
>>> Tunnelblck (which for some reason hates me, mind you I hate it), but 
>>> we use hardwired versions of that as well as Bitdefender and 
>>> Viscosity. I like Viscosity :)
>>>
>>> More information helps here.
>>>
>>> Rob
>>>
>>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:08, Peter Borsella wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for the quick response.  I’m not familiar with using this 
>>>> DNS, but now have something to research.
>>>>
>>>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 9:01, Robert Brenstein wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> You may want to try using a different DNS provider when tunneling 
>>>>> over VPN, like Google’s 8.8.8.8/8.8.4.4 for example. Some VPN 
>>>>> services have their own DNS as an option as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23 Sep 2019, at 14:41, Peter Borsella wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Good Day, All,
>>>>>> I am using a VPN tool on my Mac, and have experienced as might be 
>>>>>> expected that emails do not flow with the VPN active.  However, 
>>>>>> are there any settings or workarounds that would still allow me 
>>>>>> to keep my VPN turned on while exchanging emails?
>>>>>> Thanks...Peter
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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