[MlMt] Security

[Daniel Torrecillas]

> MailMate is a Desktop application and most of its network activity is
> between you and your IMAP/SMTP providers. MailMate only talks to my
> server when doing application update checks, when updating bundles (a
> plugin-system for MailMate) and when sending crash reports (if enabled
> in the General preferences pane).

Thank you. I've been looking around at email clients and I saw that 
Airmail and Spark both had some sort of additional functionality which 
required them to store email addresses and associated passwords on their 
servers. That makes me uncomfortable.

-- 
Daniel

On Jan 18 2018, at 6:09 AM, mailmate-request at lists.freron.com wrote:

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>    1. Re: Security (Benny Kjær Nielsen) (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
>    2. Re: Edit Notification format? (Compass Luca Cignacco)
>    3. Re: forwarding HTML emails (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
>    4. Re: Edit Notification format? (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
>    5. Re: Is it possible to refresh the addressbook data from
>       MailMate? (lists.freron.com at nietzold.com)
>    6. Retain width of Thread Size column between views (possible
>       bug?) (askedrelic at gmail.com)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:39:29 +0100
> From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <mailinglist at freron.com>
> To: blogs at torrecillas.com, "MailMate Users"
> 	<mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] Security (Benny Kjær Nielsen)
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> On 17 Jan 2018, at 17:47, uncat wrote:
>
>>> I back you up. Only thing to add is that one should make sure that
>>> SSL
>>> is always enabled such that a password is never sent to the 
>>> IMAP/SMTP
>>> server in plain text. Note that most proper email servers wouldn't
>>> even
>>> allow non-SSL connections.
>>
>> Is there a Privacy Policy shown during the installation by chance?
>
> No. Installation is just dragging MailMate to, e.g., the Applications
> folder.
>
> MailMate is a Desktop application and most of its network activity is
> between you and your IMAP/SMTP providers. MailMate only talks to my
> server when doing application update checks, when updating bundles (a
> plugin-system for MailMate) and when sending crash reports (if enabled
> in the General preferences pane).
>
> If you get a license key then I also have access to some personal
> information via FastSpring (my reseller). Earlier on I got an email 
> with
> this information for every purchase, but this is no longer the case.
> This means that I only store the name and email address of each 
> license
> key owner (everything else is handled by FastSpring). I do *not* have
> (and never had) access to credit card information.
>
> That's all the relevant information I can think of for now. Let me 
> know
> if you have any concerns or you can point to an example of a privacy
> policy which you would prefer instead of the above.
>
> MailMate is developed by Freron Software which is a small one-man (me)
> business located in Copenhagen, Denmark (in the EU).
>
> -- 
> Benny
> MailMate developer
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> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:43:35 +0100
> From: "Compass Luca Cignacco" <info at compass.udine.it>
> To: blogs at torrecillas.com, "MailMate Users"
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> Subject: Re: [MlMt] Edit Notification format?
> Message-ID: <885B982B-09AA-4B89-8A9B-97BADEADC70B at compass.udine.it>
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> Go to Preferences -> Counters -> Edit “Format” field
>
> That’s it
>
> On 18 Jan 2018, at 4:04, Daniel Torrecillas wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've just started a trial to see if MailMate will work for me. Is
>> there a way to edit the format of the Notification banner to mirror
>> Apple Mail's implementation?
>>
>> I see the **Format** field in the **Counters** tab of Preferences, 
>> but
>> I don't know where to go from there.
>>
>> Please see attached screenshots to see the message banner for Apple
>> Mail and MailMate, for the same message.
>>
>> -- 
>> Daniel
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 10:46:22 +0100
> From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <mailinglist at freron.com>
> To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] forwarding HTML emails
> Message-ID: <3A0E20EA-BF90-44D3-8E4A-2B18B0E8F5E6 at freron.com>
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> On 18 Jan 2018, at 0:18, David Ledger wrote:
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>> On 17 Jan 2018, at 20:21, Tracy Valleau wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Why not "just" forward ALL that original source? The head, the
>>> tables, the divs, the body... That way  the recipient would see what
>>> I see.
>>
>> I’m not up to date with all the possibilities of modern emails, but
>> I would imagine that the problem will be the ‘Content-Type:’
>> headers. They have to be in the right place for the text and HTML
>> parts to make sense. I believe a header still has to be before the
>> first blank line that isn’t part of the data for another header. If
>> you want to forward with added text it would require a bit of
>> juggling.
>>
>> I think redirecting an email sends a replica with HTML part intact.
>
> This is correct. The only way do what Tracy asks for is to use
> “Message ▸ Redirect”.
>
> And just to be clear. MailMate is able to do exactly what other email
> clients do *except* for editing the forwarded HTML.
>
> * By default, MailMate embeds the HTML when needed just like other 
> email
> clients. There are some preferences to control this (in the Composer
> preferences pane), but the defaults should be fine for most users.
> * MailMate also offers “Message ▸ Forward as Attachment”. Some
> email clients, like MailMate, would still show such a message inline,
> but this is not true for all email clients. This type of forwarding 
> has
> the advantage of being able to add a comment before the attachment 
> while
> keeping all of the original message (and HTML) intact. Some services
> also require this type of forwarding, e.g., it might be required when
> sending an email to some spam-registering service (which might not
> handle redirected emails).
>
> -- 
> Benny
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> Message: 4
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 11:00:29 +0100
> From: "Benny Kjær Nielsen" <mailinglist at freron.com>
> To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] Edit Notification format?
> Message-ID: <DB5EE3F5-BF4D-4DE5-B170-FD0F3B7E03D1 at freron.com>
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> On 18 Jan 2018, at 10:43, Compass Luca Cignacco wrote:
>
>>> I've just started a trial to see if MailMate will work for me. Is
>>> there a way to edit the format of the Notification banner to mirror
>>> Apple Mail's implementation?
>>
>> Go to Preferences -> Counters -> Edit “Format” field
>
> You missed that Daniel also asked for a body text summary in the
> notification. This is not easily done (although `#unquoted` could
> possibly be used).
>
> This is actually an old item on my todo lists, but I think some recent
> additions to MailMate might make it easier to implement. There needs 
> to
> be some way to get a short summary of the content of an email to make
> this work. It has to be a bit smart though in order to skip, e.g., the
> quoted text above and the wrote-line.
>
> With respect to new-lines you can do like this:
>
> 	${from.name.#nospoof:${from.address}}\n${subject}
>
> Quick testing seems to indicate that you can only have 1 newline.
>
> The title of the notification is currently hardcoded, but I guess that
> could be changed as well. I'll make a note of it.
>
> -- 
> Benny
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> Message: 5
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:43:53 +0100
> From: lists.freron.com at nietzold.com
> To: "MailMate Users" <mailmate at lists.freron.com>
> Subject: Re: [MlMt] Is it possible to refresh the addressbook data
> 	from MailMate?
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> it looks for me that this is a more an iCloud / BusyContacts
> maybe you ask there for more help?
>
> On 21 Aug 2017, at 15:14, Jody Foo wrote:
>
>> In reply to Benny Kjær Nielsen (2017-08-21, 12:12):
>>
>>> Hmm, I don't know exactly when MacOS synchronizes contacts. I'm
>>> pretty sure that this does work if using iCloud Contacts, but I 
>>> might
>>> be wrong.
>>
>> Thanks, I've made a note to test how iCloud behaves.
>>
>>>> Or can I add the CardDAV source to MailMate directly using some
>>>> hidden option? Or perhaps even specify a shell command to use for
>>>> address completion (since I already set this up for my experiments
>>>> with command line mail agents)?
>>>
>>> That last one is not currently possible, but I've considered adding
>>> it. The GUI (Composer preferences pane) already has a list of
>>> auto-completion sources and I considered adding some kind of
>>> script-based alternative. It's not a high priority though :)
>>
>> Ok! Thanks for the info.
>>
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> Message: 6
> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 15:09:32 +0100
> From: askedrelic at gmail.com
> To: mailmate at lists.freron.com
> Subject: [MlMt] Retain width of Thread Size column between views
> 	(possible	bug?)
> Message-ID: <005919B7-77D2-4510-AB1E-EEE9A9D7B013 at gmail.com>
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>
> Hi, has anyone else run into this?
>
> I would like to leave the Thread Size column enabled, but it always
> changes size (growing extra wide) when I switch layouts, which is
> frustrating. Am
>
> I start in the three pane layout (Apple + 4), manually dragging Thread
> Size to fit 1-2 digits - https://files.asktherelic.com/thread-1.png
> I switch to the widescreen layout (Apple + 5) and Thread Size shrinks 
> to
> fit - https://files.asktherelic.com/thread-2.png
> Then I return to three pane layout (Apple + 4) and Thread Size resets 
> to
> a huge width - https://files.asktherelic.com/thread-3.png
>
> This is strange, since there is no thread in my mailbox with 99999
> replies needed such a large width. My thread sizes are at most 2 
> digits.
>
> I've also tried saving the "default columns" and the column size will
> still reset whenever I change layouts.
>
> Thanks for any help! Matt
>
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