[MlMt] Should I remove gmail labels completely ?

Topher Buck topher at indigitis.com
Sun Jul 2 13:32:39 EDT 2017

Giovanni et al.,

Forgive me for replying to a thread that is now more than two years old, 
but I’m still struggling with the question of how best to use MailMate 
with Gmail labels.

In this case, I don’t understand Giovanni’s advice (see below) to 
“treat them [Gmail labels] as folders”—keeping in mind, of course, 
the “no multiple labels per message” admonition. As I understand it, 
in MM, folder = mailbox, and this would suggest that one would create MM 
mailboxes corresponding to one’s Gmail labels. But—unless I’m 
really missing something—there is no way to create mailboxes in MM 
other than smart mailboxes), so there’s no way to move a message from 
my inbox to another mailbox, is there? *Unless* I include the mailboxes 
under SOURCES, but I thought the idea was not to use those as part of 
one’s typical workflow.

The Organize section of the MM manual 
[https://manual.mailmate-app.com/organize] states, “MailMate supports 
3 kinds of mailboxes…”, but it then describes only two: [1] Standard 
Mailboxes (Inbox, Drafts, Sent Messages, Junk, and Deleted Messages) and 
[2] Smart Mailboxes. What’s the third kind? Custom, but not smart, 
seems like the obvious option; is that just wishful thinking on my part?

Benny very kindly responded to my recent question about Gmail labels and 
MM tags, so, assuming I understand correctly, I know that I should not 
map MM tags to Gmail labels but should use MM mailboxes for Gmail labels 
(and use tags within MM), and that makes sense to me, but only if I can 
create MM mailboxes and map them to my existing Gmail labels/folders.

I tried quitting MM, editing the Mailboxes.plist file to add an entry 
for a new mailbox, and then restarting MM, but that didn’t have any 
obvious effect other than reordering the mailboxes in the left panel in 
MM. Then I found this entry in the MM lists archive: 
https://www.mail-archive.com/mailmate@lists.freron.com/msg03660.html and 
tried copying and renaming the “Examples” mailbox. That worked, but 
I don’t know how to map it to a Gmail label, nor can I even move 
existing messages from my Inbox to the new mailbox, so it’s not clear 
that I have actually accomplished anything.

Is the only option in MM to use tags to organize messages and move 
everything I want to save to the Archive folder? I could probably live 
with that, but I would be awfully nice not to abandon all my Gmail 
labels, and I have not gotten the clear sense that this is necessary 
(put another way, I still have the impression, based on what I have 
heard from Benny and read in the archive, that it *is* possible to 
create and use MM mailboxes corresponding to Gmail labels).

Can anyone enlighten me?

Thank you very much,


> Giovanni Lanzani Fri, 03 Apr 2015 05:00:08 -0700
> On 3 Apr 2015, at 13:01, Olivier Martin wrote:
>> Hello there,
>> The question must have been asked a thousand times : it's about gmail 
>> and labels...
>> As I understand it, they are mostly an IMAP hack and break many many 
>> clients. So... I should probably remove them, but I have like 8 years 
>> of labelling history so it's kind of a harsh decision to make. I 
>> could create Smart mailboxes I guess but I like the idea of 
>> organising my mails with them.
>> I'm curious how you guys deal with gmail, no labels **at all** ?
>> --
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> I just treat them as folders: they can be nested, but that's it (i.e. 
> no multiple labels per message).
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