[MlMt] Deleting, moving, marking as read, and threads (new user questions)

[Benny Kjær Nielsen]

On 9 Nov 2013, at 3:10, Rob McBroom wrote:

> First, is there any way to automatically mark messages as read when 
> deleting them (and ideally when moving to Junk)? An unread count for 
> things in the trash is distracting and annoying to me. (I know the 
> count can be disabled in MailMate, but I use other clients.) The time 
> required to hit ⇧⌘U over and over really adds up (especially when 
> it includes switching from the mouse to the keyboard).

First, hold down ⌥ when clicking “Check Now” in the Software 
Update preferences pane to get r3832 of MailMate. Then go to the General 
preferences pane and enable *experimental* 2.0 features. Finally, double 
click the “Deleted Messages” mailbox and add a rule with no 
conditions, but simply an action to enable “Seen”. I think that 
should work (and you can do the same for Junk).

I'll consider adding such rules (maybe in a disabled state) to make it 
easier for users to enable this behavior.

> Semi-related to that, I typically view messages in a separate window. 
> When I delete the message, the window closes, but if I move it to 
> Junk, it stays open. I have the “Close window after move” 
> preference enabled.

That option is related to ⌥⌘T.


> Can I get the window to close when moving to junk somehow?

No, not any way I can think of. You can define a [custom key 
binding](http://manual.mailmate-app.com/custom_key_bindings) which moves 
to junk and closes the window, but that won't work for the default 
toolbar button. The custom key binding could be something like:

	"j" = ( "moveToJunk:", "performClose:");

I guess this problem also applies to the “Archive” button. And I 
also think it is a problem that MailMate does not select the next 
message in the mailbox view.

> Finally, does anyone have any tips for dealing with threads? It seems 
> cumbersome to read them (without the keyboard), but maybe I’m 
> missing something. One change that would really help is if collapsed 
> threads behaved more consistently. If you delete, move, or mark as 
> read with a collapsed thread selected, it affects all the messages. 
> But double clicking a collapsed thread or selecting it with the 
> preview pane enabled doesn’t *show* all the messages.

This would essentially be a so-called conversation view which currently 
does not exist in MailMate (MailMate can display multiple messages in a 
message view, but that is rather primitive). It's non-trivial to 
implement this, but it is one of a few items high on my list (as usual, 
no promises or time frame).

> It only shows the first message. I find myself clicking a lot of 
> triangles. (I know about ⌥-click and ⌃⌘A, but that means 
> reaching for the keyboard.)

When reading/deleting/archiving messages I strongly recommend using the 
keyboard only, but I do get your point. (Note that ⌥ also works with 
right-arrow to expand a thread.)

Thanks for trying out MailMate.

-- 
Benny
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