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<p dir="auto">I have the “big three” (Microsoft Outlook, Google Mail, Yahoo Mail). But use their clients rarely. I do use Apple Mail on I-Devices particularly.</p>
<p dir="auto">Testing my own email coming back from their servers but viewing in MailMate. Perhaps the defects are covered up in that respect and also by the fact that mown email is sent in Markup (sections), generally they seem to be the same when viewed, coming back to me.</p>
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On 27 Feb 2026, at 8:50, Bill Cole wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">On 2026-02-26 at 21:20:13 UTC-0500 (Thu, 26 Feb 2026 18:20:13 -0800)<br>
Randall Gellens <a href="mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com">mailmate@lists.freron.com</a><br>
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<p dir="auto">(There was a time when sending anything that used characters not present in U.S. ASCII did require a form of encoding, but these days support for Unicode is pretty robust.)</p>
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<p dir="auto">I wish that were sufficiently true but as of last Spring, it was still somewhat common for mail exchangers to not announce support for the SMTPUTF8 extension which is required to avoid Base64, Quoted-Printable, or (very rarely today) UUCode encoding.</p>
<p dir="auto">Beyond that there is ALSO an issue of how to structure the text of a plain text message so that it is displayed reasonably on screens of all widths, in whatever font the recipient prefers. The ideal choice would be for all MUAs to support the "format=flowed" attribute (RFC3676) and offer users coherent formatting choices. MailMate does so but many MUAs do bad things with format=flowed messages, as a consequence of Microsoft sabotage and to some degree a failure of web archivers of public mailing lists.</p>
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