<!DOCTYPE html><html><head><title></title><style type="text/css">p.MsoNormal,p.MsoNoSpacing{margin:0}</style></head><body><div>It would be nice if Benny would change his business model and bring in more help. Having a single developer run the show is not good for many reasons.<br></div><ol><li>Should something happen to Benny (God forbid) then Mailmate is toast<br></li><li>Improve cadence of development so that new features, bug fixes and security changes happen quicker<br></li><li>Potentially adding other protocols (Microsoft Graph API and JMAP come to mind)<br></li></ol><div>As much as I love Mailmate, I've been growing weary of the future of the app. Not that development has completed halted, as we can see there have been updates all the way until August. But because it's been perpetually in a beta cycle, and there is just one developer that does literally everything for the project. Email clients are not easy to develop, so I really hope that Benny will consider changing the business model, and bring in some more developer help.<br></div><div><br></div><div>I honestly think he could do much better by lowering the price or better — moving to a subscription model. The subscription model would provide better insight into MRR (monthly recurring revenue) and this would help him grow the dev team. I'd happily pay a nominal monthly/yearly fee, knowing that there is a development team, a roadmap and some kind of ideas page to track feature requests (that receive votes from customers) to steer development.<br></div><div><br></div><div>-C<br></div><div><br></div><div>On Thu, Oct 24, 2024, at 11:35 AM, Henry Seiden wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" id="qt" style="font-family:times;font-size:125%;"><div style="font-family:sans-serif;"><div class="qt-plaintext" style="text-wrap-mode:wrap;"><p dir="auto">Been noticing that. It’s past time for a completion on 1.14 and new version beta update.<br></p></div><div id="qt-1995A5DB-20CE-42F9-8B2F-3BA5BB180511"><div style="overflow-wrap:break-word;"><div>Respectfully, <br></div><div> Henry Seiden <br></div><div> E: <a href="mailto:inf@techworkspro.com"> Techworks Pro E-mail</a> <br></div><div> W: <a href="http://techworkspro.com"> Techworks Pro Co. Home Page</a><br></div><div><hr><br></div></div><div class="qt-container" style="width:100%;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;border-top-width:1px;border-right-width:1px;border-bottom-width:1px;border-left-width:1px;border-top-style:solid;border-right-style:solid;border-bottom-style:solid;border-left-style:solid;border-top-color:gray;border-right-color:gray;border-bottom-color:gray;border-left-color:gray;line-height:150%;background-color:lightblue;"><div class="qt-header" style="padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.5em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-left:0.5em;color:white;background-color:gray;clear:left;"><h1 class="qt-header" style="padding-top:0px;padding-bottom:0px;padding-right:0px;padding-left:0px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;">Techworks Pro Co.<br></h1></div><div class="qt-left" style="float:left;width:210px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-left:0px;padding-top:1em;padding-bottom:1em;padding-right:1em;padding-left:1em;"><p>Founder, Henry Seiden info@techworkspro.com<br></p></div><div class="qt-content" style="margin-left:230px;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:gray;padding-top:1em;padding-bottom:1em;padding-right:1em;padding-left:1em;overflow-x:hidden;overflow-y:hidden;"><img src="https://techworkspro.com/_includes/techworkspro_v3_200x53.png" width="300" alt=""><br></div><div class="qt-footer" style="padding-top:0.5em;padding-bottom:0.5em;padding-right:0.5em;padding-left:0.5em;color:white;background-color:gray;clear:left;">© 2024 techworkspro.com<br></div></div></div><div class="qt-plaintext" style="text-wrap-mode:wrap;"><p dir="auto"></p><div><br></div><div>On 24 Oct 2024, at 10:39, Bill Cole wrote:<br></div><p></p></div><blockquote class="qt-embedded" style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:5px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(119, 119, 119);color:rgb(119, 119, 119);"><div id="qt-0470857C-16E0-462E-8BAA-E76C1F997308"><div style="font-family:sans-serif;"><div class="qt-plaintext" style="text-wrap-mode:wrap;"><p dir="auto"></p><div>On 2024-10-23 at 08:07:29 UTC-0400 (Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:07:29 -0400)<br></div><div> James Coffey <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br></div><div> is rumored to have said:<br></div><p></p><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:5px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(119, 119, 119);color:rgb(119, 119, 119);"><p dir="auto">Interestingly, I d/l the latest beta from the direct link and it’s Version 1.14 (5937).<br></p></blockquote><p dir="auto">Yes, Benny is chronically behind on updating the different levels of blessedness. Any other commercial software (i.e. with professional product lifecycle management) would be at v3.x or v4.x at this point, but Benny seems to be unwilling to call MM done-for-now at any point.<br></p><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:5px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(119, 119, 119);color:rgb(119, 119, 119);"><p dir="auto">On 23 Oct 2024, at 7:55, Felix Kronlage-Dammers via mailmate wrote:<br></p><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:5px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(153, 153, 153);color:rgb(153, 153, 153);"><p dir="auto">On 23 Oct 2024, at 13:17, James Coffey wrote:<br></p><blockquote style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:5px;margin-left:0px;padding-left:5px;border-left-width:2px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(187, 187, 187);color:rgb(187, 187, 187);"><p dir="auto">6065 hangs trying to get mail from gmail<br></p></blockquote><p dir="auto">interesting, since I’m on 6065 (with 15.1 beneath it) and I’m accessing gmail with it (low volume, only a backup account) without issues.<br></p><p dir="auto"></p><div>felix<br></div><div> _______________________________________________<br></div><div> mailmate mailing list<br></div><div> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate" style="color:rgb(153, 153, 153);">https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate</a><br></div><p></p></blockquote><p dir="auto"></p><div>_______________________________________________<br></div><div> mailmate mailing list<br></div><div> Unsubscribe: <a href="https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate" style="color:rgb(119, 119, 119);">https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate</a><br></div><p></p></blockquote></div><div id="qt-391C2EDB-51F2-44BE-8BBE-77E1377A3737"><pre> bill@scconsult.com or billcole@apache.org
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