<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">I tried the newer build that was available last week and found that although the original crashing during editing messages went away, currently it crashes completely randomly, and much more often, and after crash will then often crash repeatedly on reloading the app, taking several retries to start before it will run again. Currently it will not run after about 10 retries so I cannot confirm the build version, but I downloaded the latest public beta just now and it crases on loading. I send a fraction of these crash reports to Apple, I don’t know if these are of use or not.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">is there a ‘factory reset’ I can perform to get mailmate running again?<br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">thanks.</div><div class="">Eli</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 16, 2022, at 9:00 AM, <a href="mailto:mailmate-request@lists.freron.com" class="">mailmate-request@lists.freron.com</a> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">Send mailmate mailing list submissions to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span><a href="mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com" class="">mailmate@lists.freron.com</a><br class=""><br class="">To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate<br class="">or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>mailmate-request@lists.freron.com<br class=""><br class="">You can reach the person managing the list at<br class=""><span class="Apple-tab-span" style="white-space:pre"> </span>mailmate-owner@lists.freron.com<br class=""><br class="">When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific<br class="">than "Re: Contents of mailmate digest..."<br class="">Today's Topics:<br class=""><br class=""> 1. Re: Link for viewing attachments (Glenn Parker)<br class=""> 2. Re: Link for viewing attachments (Benny Kjær Nielsen)<br class=""> 3. Re: MM crashes often on M1 macbook pro (Glenn Parker)<br class=""> 4. Re: MM crashes often on M1 macbook pro (Benny Kjær Nielsen)<br class=""> 5. Re: Sending address no longer in "From" dropdown when<br class=""> composing (Benny Kjær Nielsen)<br class=""> 6. Re: Sending address no longer in "From" dropdown when<br class=""> composing (Dibson T Hoffweiler)<br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@comcast.net><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [MlMt] Link for viewing attachments</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 15, 2022 at 11:49:04 AM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class="">On 12 Aug 2022, at 15:04, Antonio Leding wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">“What were you able to do with the older interface which you cannot do now?”<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Functionally, there is no change but UX wise, it is different. It was nice to just click on the attachment filename and have it open as a preview without needing the app. This function is now provided by clicking on the little eye on the far right.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">FWIW, you can also double-click on the attachment name to directly open the document in the default app (instead of in preview mode, which is what the “eye” icon provides).<br class=""><br class="">Glenn P. Parker<br class="">glenn.parker@comcast.net<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Benny Kjær Nielsen <mailinglist@freron.com><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [MlMt] Link for viewing attachments</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 15, 2022 at 11:53:25 AM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class="">On 15 Aug 2022, at 20:49, Glenn Parker wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 12 Aug 2022, at 15:04, Antonio Leding wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">“What were you able to do with the older interface which you cannot do now?”<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Functionally, there is no change but UX wise, it is different. It was nice to just click on the attachment filename and have it open as a preview without needing the app. This function is now provided by clicking on the little eye on the far right.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">FWIW, you can also double-click on the attachment name to directly open the document in the default app (instead of in preview mode, which is what the “eye” icon provides).<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Yes, the eye is the standard icon for QuickLook and it can also be triggered using ⌘Y (as in the Finder) or by hitting space if the attachment list is in focus.<br class=""><br class="">(Somewhat related, the next update of MailMate fixes a few focus and toggling issues with QuickLook.)<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Benny<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Glenn Parker <glenn.parker@comcast.net><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [MlMt] MM crashes often on M1 macbook pro</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 15, 2022 at 11:57:03 AM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class="">No crashes on my M1 iMac here.<br class=""><br class="">You can hold down the option-key with the “MailMate” menu to access “Check for Test Build”. This will offer you a quick upgrade to the latest build (5910 as of today). There are some other non-critical issues with this build, but it’s very stable.<br class=""><br class="">For other builds, see https://updates.mailmate-app.com/archives/.<br class=""><br class="">Glenn P. Parker<br class="">glenn.parker@comcast.net<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Benny Kjær Nielsen <mailinglist@freron.com><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [MlMt] MM crashes often on M1 macbook pro</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 15, 2022 at 12:04:41 PM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class="">On 15 Aug 2022, at 20:57, Glenn Parker wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">No crashes on my M1 iMac here.<br class=""><br class="">You can hold down the option-key with the “MailMate” menu to access “Check for Test Build”. This will offer you a quick upgrade to the latest build (5910 as of today). There are some other non-critical issues with this build, but it’s very stable.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">For the record, there are now few known crash/hang issues with the test releases and I receive very few crash reports. I do have a couple of reported hanging issues. One seems to be related to a large number of accounts and the other possibly with writing very fast in the Composer. I have not yet been able to reproduce them.<br class=""><br class="">(I'll continue my work on making the test release ready to be a public release.)<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Benny<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Benny Kjær Nielsen <mailinglist@freron.com><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [MlMt] Sending address no longer in "From" dropdown when composing</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 15, 2022 at 12:08:57 PM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class="">On 14 Aug 2022, at 3:15, Dibson T Hoffweiler wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I solved the issue.<br class=""><br class="">I looked through Application support and found the Identities.plist file. The ‘emailAddresses’ field for the account was empty. I hadn’t touched the file before, so I’m not sure what happened there. I set the field to the address and it is now available to choose and correctly set based upon context of recipient.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The crash did happen when opening the From popup and likely because the above had been cleared. But the clearing of this value would probably have happened at some other point, e.g., when editing the IMAP account settings (possibly to change something else). Let me know if this happens again and/or you figure out what triggered it.<br class=""><br class="">-- <br class="">Benny<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">From: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">Dibson T Hoffweiler <dibson@hoffweiler.com><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Subject: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class=""><b class="">Re: [MlMt] Sending address no longer in "From" dropdown when composing</b><br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">Date: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">August 15, 2022 at 2:03:40 PM PDT<br class=""></span></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px;" class=""><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif; color:rgba(127, 127, 127, 1.0);" class=""><b class="">To: </b></span><span style="font-family: -webkit-system-font, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, sans-serif;" class="">MailMate Users <mailmate@lists.freron.com><br class=""></span></div><br class=""><br class="">On 15 Aug 2022, at 12:08, Benny Kjær Nielsen wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">On 14 Aug 2022, at 3:15, Dibson T Hoffweiler wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">I solved the issue.<br class=""><br class="">I looked through Application support and found the Identities.plist file. The ‘emailAddresses’ field for the account was empty. I hadn’t touched the file before, so I’m not sure what happened there. I set the field to the address and it is now available to choose and correctly set based upon context of recipient.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The crash did happen when opening the From popup and likely because the above had been cleared. But the clearing of this value would probably have happened at some other point, e.g., when editing the IMAP account settings (possibly to change something else). Let me know if this happens again and/or you figure out what triggered it.<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">The account missing from the “From” list was the one that I was having issue with in my previous thread, “Message in GMail web interface not appearing in mailmate”. I had removed and re-added the Gmail source, and then adjusted the folder subscription. I’d guess the change to the plist happened somewhere there.<br class=""><br class="">-DTH<br class=""><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">mailmate mailing list<br class="">mailmate@lists.freron.com<br class="">https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></div></div></div></body></html>