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<p dir="auto">Don’t know if you’re interested, but I’m using the developer build, on advice from Benny. I’m aware that sorting and views are fluid aspects of MailMate, you should know that Develop Builds are available by holding down option key when checking the menu: Mailmate. The “Check for Update” changes to “Test Build”. Benny is much more responsive to making changes on that Build. OTOH, it may be less to your liking with the new features he’s testing out there.</p>
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On 22 Feb 2022, at 15:55, Quinn Comendant wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">I've still been breaking my brain with the inconsistency of columns and sort in MailMate. Today I discovered the state is saved in the MailMate preferences, under <code style="margin: 0; padding: 0 0.4em; border-radius: 3px; background-color: #F7F7F7;">MmMailboxRelatedStates</code>, where <em>each view has its own column settings</em>. This shows clearly that this is a feature not a bug. It's an undesirable behavior for me, so I googled this and found some old threads <a href="https://mailmate.freron.narkive.com/0wbncv72/mlmt-revert-to-default-columns-revert-to-different-columns-depending-on-mailbox" style="color: #3983C4;">[1]</a><a href="https://lists.freron.com/mailmate/2017-June/008297.html" style="color: #3983C4;">[2]</a> on the mailing list that suggest I can quit MailMate, delete this preference key by running the following <code style="margin: 0; padding: 0 0.4em; border-radius: 3px; background-color: #F7F7F7;">defaults</code> command in the terminal, then re-configure my default view:</p>
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<p dir="auto">After relaunching MailMate, I selected the top-most view of my IMAP account, set the columns how I want, then selected “Use as Default Columns”. This worked! It didn't apply to Drafts, Sent, or Spam folders, but all other folders now have the default columns applied.</p>
<p dir="auto">However, I still don't see a way to reset the sort preferences in the same way. For example, every time I switch from Widescreen Layout to Correspondence Layout, the list of correspondence is sorted with newest messages at the bottom. Is there a way to set newest messages at the top for all views, everywhere, always?</p>
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<p dir="auto">On 2 Jan 2022, at 22:34, Quinn Comendant wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">On 2 Jan 2022, at 19:07, Bob Stern via mailmate wrote:</p>
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<p dir="auto">I'm using version 1.14 (5853) on macOS 12.1, 2021 M1 Pro MBP.</p>
<p dir="auto">I can reproduce this issue as follows:</p>
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<li>Open my Inbox by clicking the Inbox folder icon in the left sidebar.</li>
<li>Apply some arbitrary column settings, e.g., right-click a column header and show UID and move it to be the leftmost column.</li>
<li>Right-click a column header and select "Use as Default Columns".</li>
<li>Navigate to a different folder (click in the left sidebar).</li>
<li>The new column settings that I saved are not displayed there. Also, if I right-click on a column header the "Revert to Default Columns" option is disabled.</li>
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<p dir="auto">I'm expecting an easy (or immediate, with no action required) method to have my column settings apply to all folders.</p>
<p dir="auto">Instead, I have to set my column preferences manually for each folder.</p>
<p dir="auto">I've resigned to just using the basic columns that are set with MailMate out-of-the-box, since it's too much effort to change them for each folder individually.</p>
<p dir="auto">Maybe I'm overlooking how it should work.</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks,<br>
Quinn</p>
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<p dir="auto">Hi all,</p>
<p dir="auto">I've been using MailMate a couple weeks now, so far I'm completely in love with it.</p>
<p dir="auto">I've encountered one bothersome behavior: when I change the view of the message list (by selecting a different folder, doing a search, or e.g., selecting “Find Messages From user@example.com”, the columns and sorting of the message list changes, forcing me to re-configure the columns and sort.</p>
<p dir="auto">I want a the columns Read, Flag, Tags, From, Subject, Date Received, and Size, and I want the list sorted by Date with the newest messages at top; but whenever I change views, the oldest message is at the top.</p>
<p dir="auto">I found the option when I right-click on a column header to “Use as Default Columns” but it doesn't seem to do anything; those defaults do not seem to propagate to the other list views.</p>
<p dir="auto">How can I set my preferred list view settings for all list views everywhere, forever? 🥺</p>
<p dir="auto">Thanks,</p>
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