<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Thanks for the thoughts. See my interlinear responses below. <div class=""><br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 30, 2020, at 9:41 AM, Sam Hathaway <<a href="mailto:list.mailmate@munkynet.org" class="">list.mailmate@munkynet.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="">On 30 Aug 2020, at 4:55, Thomas Bartlett via mailmate wrote:<br class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class="">"com.apple.Exchange.oath-refresh-token."<br class=""></blockquote><br class="">Thomas,<br class=""><br class="">You mean, “oauth-refresh-token”, right?<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div><div>Yes. You’re right. </div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">If your account is using OAuth, your mail client won’t store the account password.<br class=""><br class="">The keychain items that MailMate stores for my GMail account (which uses OAuth) are:<br class=""><br class="">com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-token<br class="">com.freron.MailMate.Google.oauth-refresh-token<br class=""><br class="">Neither of these contain my GMail password.<br class=""><br class="">By contrast, for my FastMail account (which uses application passwords), MailMate stores these items in the keychain:<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://imap.fastmail.com" class="">imap.fastmail.com</a><br class="">smtp.fastmail.com<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>MailMate shows the server addresses for all seven of my email accounts. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">These both contain the FastMail application password for my account.<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><div><br class=""></div>MailMate only shows the password for my Yahoo account, not for the two Gmails, the <a href="http://iCloud.com" class="">iCloud.com</a>, the Outlook, the Hotmail, my employer’s Exchange account. <br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class="">Basically, if your provider uses OAuth, you’re SOL any you’ll probably have to reset your password.<br class="">-sam<br class=""><br class="">P.S.: Why do you have so many email clients?! XD<br class=""></div></div></blockquote><br class=""></div><div>Thanks for the explanation about OAuth, which I didn’t know but answers a long-standing question in my mind. Is four email clients really very many to have installed? Anyway, I sort of drifted into trying out new ones, not being fully satisfied with any of them. And I sometimes find that one or another behaves eccentrically so drop it and go to another one. I used MS Outlook on my PC for about 15 years and liked its Address Book very much. Then I moved to Mac OS platform and took up Mail, which I found inferior. Then someone recommended MailMate, which does some things much better than Mail, but is sometimes complex beyond my level of expertise, as in the present case about passwords. Then someone recommended Spark, which is fine when working right, but it can be devilishly recalcitrant to configure. And, when I got Office 365 for Mac, it came with an improved MS Outlook, which has the advantage of working more seamlessly with the Microsoft Outlook mail and Hotmail. I have a 1TB solid state drive which is less than half full, so reduplication of downloaded mail isn’t a problem (yet). Yes, it’s sometimes tedious to keep all of my accounts functioning properly in all four clients. But right now, except for Hotmail in Spark, everything else is behaving as expected. The Spark login for Hotmail doesn’t allow any “reset password” feature. So I may need to reset it in some other client where I can configure a new password in 1Password, which will keep a record of it, then use that to login to Hotmail in Spark. </div><div><br class=""></div><div>Thomas</div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><div><br class=""></div><br class=""></div></body></html>