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<p dir="auto">On 20 Sep 2018, at 22:36, Randall Meadows wrote:</p>
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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">Said SpamSieve drone was a completely new installation, so I don't think it has anything to do with "leftover" data. But what was happening was, just about all messages were ending up in my Spam mailbox, even messages I get regularly from senders that I've been getting for years with no problem.<br>
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I investigated further today, and every messages in the Spam mailbox had these headers (inserted by DreamHost's anti-spam service, which I am unable to disable):</p>
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<p dir="auto">It sounds like the most likely explanation for emails being moved to spam is DreamHost: <a href="https://discussion.dreamhost.com/t/how-do-i-disable-the-anti-spam-filter/63746/32" style="color:#3983C4">https://discussion.dreamhost.com/t/how-do-i-disable-the-anti-spam-filter/63746/32</a></p>
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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">X-VR-STATUS:<br>
X-VR-SCORE:<br>
X-VR-SPAMCAUSE:</p>
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<p dir="auto">MailMate does not use these headers for anything. But you could use them in rules if you like, e.g., to do something like this:</p>
<pre style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:5px 5px 5px 5px; margin-left:15px; margin-right:15px; max-width:90vw; overflow-x:auto; padding:5px" bgcolor="#F7F7F7"><code style="background-color:#F7F7F7; border-radius:3px; margin:0; padding:0" bgcolor="#F7F7F7">Condition: X-VR-Status is “Whitelisted”
Action: Set Keyword “Not Junk”
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<p dir="auto">See further below for why that might be useful. For the record, I have no idea how to get something on the whitelist on DreamHost.</p>
<p dir="auto">The headers above are described by DreamHost <a href="https://help.dreamhost.com/hc/en-us/articles/215686647-Technical-details-on-how-Anti-spam-filters-work" style="color:#3983C4">here</a>.</p>
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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">The values varied, of course, but the one constant was, every message that had a non-zero X-VR-SCORE (which was most of them, like 90+%) was moved to the spam mailbox. Now, after disabling the drone, I'm getting all the messages filtered (locally) into the correct mailboxes, but still all those non-zero scored messages have the yellow header with<br>
[Mark as Not Junk] [ Load Once] [ Move to Junk]<br>
buttons.<br>
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I can only assume that MailMate is heeding these X-VR-* headers and considering every message with a non-zero score as "spammy", yielding the yellow banner and buttons. Is this correct?</p>
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<p dir="auto">No, MailMate isn't really telling you that it thinks the email is junk. It is telling you that the email contains external references (most likely to images). This is the image blocking feature configured in the Security preferences pane. This is about email tracking which is not only done by spammers. Nevertheless, a feature of this system is that MailMate can be told to fetch images if the email has been explicitly marked as “Not Junk”. In other words, an email has 3 junk-related states: Unknown, Junk, Not Junk.</p>
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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">If so...has there been a recent change in MM that might affect this?</p>
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<p dir="auto">No, I don't think so.</p>
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<div style="white-space:normal"><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid #777; color:#777; margin:0 0 5px; padding-left:5px"><p dir="auto">(I can't recall when I last updated, but this issue "coincidentally" started after my aforementioned SpamSieve drone problem, but since I've now eliminated SpamSieve from the equation, now I I'm sure what to think.<br>
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I'm about to completely nuke my MM installation and start from scratch, just in case I've mucked up something unbeknownst to me, so if anyone has ideas that can save me from that pain, I'd appreciate it!</p>
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<p dir="auto">Don't do that. As far as I can tell the main problem is DreamHost spam-filtering and maybe your image blocking settings in the Security preferences pane (maybe you had this disabled in the past).</p>
<p dir="auto">I hope this helps.</p>
<p dir="auto">-- <br>
Benny<br>
<a href="https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/" style="color:#3983C4">https://freron.com/become_a_mailmate_patron/</a></p>
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