<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Not exactly.</div><div><br></div><div>1. start the old mac in target mode (hold T)</div><div>2. connect via firewire </div><div><br></div><div>OR</div><div><br></div><div>1. start the old mac normally</div><div>2. connect via network cable</div><div><br></div><div>Then:</div><div>1. on the new mac, logon with a user ID not identical to your user on the old mac</div><div>2. initiate transfer from the old mac: <a href="https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204350">https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204350</a></div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div>Volker<br><br><div>-- <div>sent from my tablet - there may be cake and typos and wrong autotext</div></div></div><div><br>Am 08.10.2016 um 16:59 schrieb Patrik Fältström <<a href="mailto:paf@frobbit.se">paf@frobbit.se</a>>:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>Aha! Ok, good catch!</span><br><span></span><br><span>I got it.</span><br><span></span><br><span>So what you say is that:</span><br><span></span><br><span>1. Take the old mac</span><br><span>2. Take the new mac</span><br><span>3. Connect the two with an as fast connection as possible</span><br><span>4. Ensure MailMate is not running on either of the two</span><br><span>5. Copy the ~/Library/Application Support/MailMate directory from old to new host</span><br><span></span><br><span> paf</span><br><span></span><br><span>On 8 Oct 2016, at 16:51, Volker Kopetzky wrote:</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>You won’t need a time machine, just a firewire cable and the old machine started in Target mode.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>After that, all your settings/folders in MailMate will be identical on both machines and -- as MM uses IMAP -- you can work with both machines. Just new mailboxes or changes to smart mailboxes will stay local.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best,</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Volker</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 8 Oct 2016, at 16:48, Patrik Fältström wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Of course this works if you restore from a TimeMachine, but if you want to use the old and new...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> paf</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 8 Oct 2016, at 16:46, Volker Kopetzky wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I just bought a new macbook pro and simply restored all user data from the old laptop. In regards to MailMate that was everything I needed to do. It started right away with all mailboxrs, folders and no email was missed.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Best,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Volker</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On 8 Oct 2016, at 16:44, Patrik Fältström wrote:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Hi,</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Once again I have the need for starting use MailMate on a different host. This time because the trackpad and keyboard died on my laptop, and I have to launch a backup machine.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>And copy settings etc to that new host.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I will copy the files by using DropBox and of course I once again thought about having settings there all the time and hard/soft links to the DropBox folder.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>I think I really would like to:</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. Know what files we talk about that can be copied to a different host</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. Why not have them in a separate directory in the settings "hierarchy"</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. Hopefully MailMate will open/do changes/read/write/close in short bursts (and not keep the files open)</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. Could MailMate state(2) those files now and then, detect when files changes, and if so read the files and apps settings?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But, many things in for example the Mailboxes.plist file include UUID's for the identification of the mailboxes. I have not digged into that too much yet, but I guess the UUID's might be different on different clients even if they are the same IMAP mailbox?</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>Yes, I know the plan is to have settings stored in the IMAP server itself, but that implies you must have account settings set manually before the settings can be applied. A catch-22.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>On the other hand, there can be race conditions anyway when for example DropBox is sync:ed, MailMate started and DropBox has not sync:ed the settings, MailMate create new settings and DropBox then sync the settings...etc.</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>But I think those race conditions will happen regardless of whether the settings are stored in IMAP or by some shared file system...</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>So, at least I think I would like to see in the manual one page saying "if you want to start running MailMate on a new host, these are the recommended steps...".</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span> paf</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span>mailmate mailing list</span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:mailmate@lists.freron.com">mailmate@lists.freron.com</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate">https://lists.freron.com/listinfo/mailmate</a></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote 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