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<div>On 17.09.2016 at 7:58 Uhr +0200 Benny Kjær Nielsen apparently
wrote:</div>
<blockquote type="cite" cite>Well, I should add that indeed sometimes
moving a message to the junk mailbox marks it as junk as well.<br>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>That should work every time. It might
help to enable the "Raw Flags" column in the messages list if you
want to see exactly which flags have been applied.</blockquote>
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<div>I turned on the "raw flags" column. I see the following
combinations</div>
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<div>$Junk \Recent \Seen</div>
<div>$Junk \Recent</div>
<div>$Junk \Seen</div>
<div>\Recent</div>
<div>\Recent \Seen</div>
<div>\Seen</div>
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<div>Out of 380 messages in the Junk mailbox only 15 have $Junk flag.
Most are \Recent or \Recent \Seen. I wonder whether having messages in
Junk without $Junk flag might have sth to do with my using POP client
to move the messages to junk mailbox on another computer, although I
thought that POP does such things locally only.</div>
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<div>I somehow missed the "Junk state" item in the menus. In
truth, I was looking for "Mark as Junk," in parallel to
"Mark as read" and "Mark as Junk" on the yellow
bar. Such inconsistencies can be stumbling blocks for new users.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>Ah, it's a single message window issue.
In the main window the email would be moved out of the currently
displayed mailbox and therefore it does not have this issue. I've
noted this.</blockquote>
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<div>May be you should really add the 2-pane view to MailMate as
suggested in the other thread, so the "3-pane view without
message pane" is always properly considered in its own
rights.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite>By default, the Junk mailbox is excluded
from most mailboxes including "All Messages", but the Mailboxes
pane in the mailbox editor also allows you to use a "None" group
method which allows you to do something like this:</blockquote>
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<div>I just checked and you are right about "All Messages".
I was using the source account instead of all, so I do not need to add
additional conditions checking which account the mail was sent
to.</div>
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<blockquote type="cite" cite><tt>All<br>
Some Mailbox<br>
None</tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><tt>
Junk</tt></blockquote>
<blockquote type="cite" cite><tt><br></tt></blockquote>
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<div>I actually tried that before posting and thought that it did not
work because I still saw a ton of junk messages, but as I checked more
thoroughly now, those junk messages are not in the Junk mailbox. On
the other hand, it seems that this condition is responsible or at
least contributes to the spinning pizza issue which I reported
separately. After I activated this condition, I see spinning pizza for
up to 1 minute.</div>
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<div>I haven't figured yet why using the source account with the above
gives me like 1300 messages in the smart mailbox, whereas using
"all messages" and checking whether any recipient is my
address for that account gives me 750 messages. I know I get some mail
forwarded which is not addressed to me and I get some mail that is
using alternative versions of my address, but that should not be so
many.</div>
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<div>I must say that while smart mailboxes are fantastic for some
stuff, sorting incoming mail into usable groups is definitely more
complicated with IMAP or I haven't adjusted by mental processes into
the proper frame yet. As I keep using MailMate, the smart mailbox
definitions are getting more and more complex and there is more and
more co-dependencies added (one smart mailbox depending on content of
another smart mailbox which depends on content of other mailboxes
and/or smart mailboxes).</div>
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<div>I</div>
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