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<p dir="auto">On 12 Jul 2014, at 11:33, Jonas Kemper wrote:</p>
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Whenever I work through my Inbox, I either delete messages or press "Archive" for messages that I want to act upon but not right now. Then, usually right afterwards, I work through the messages in Archive and act upon them. Then I delete also those messages.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I would suggest archiving instead of deleting and then flag the messages you need to act on. Let's see how that solves your problems.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Problems:</p>
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<li>Both Archive and Delete are not the right choices here. First of all, I almost never want to delete messages. I want to have all messages searchable via the gmail webinterface - in case I need something. It has just proven to be reliable with this.</li>
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<p dir="auto">This works since you are no longer deleting messages.</p>
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<li>Second, I failed over and over again to integrate my iPhone in the process. I would like to do some of the stuff (especially the "deleting and archiving" part) while commuting. Whatever I tried (Mail app, gmail app, ...) did not really map on what I was doing in Mailmate.</li>
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<p dir="auto">You can flag and move to archive fairly easily in Mail on the iPhone.</p>
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<li>Third, I don't get spam filters. I was never bothered too much by spam - at least not compared to how much false positives have bothered me. Therefore I set up a rule in the gmail webinterface (in:spam -> never flag as spam). This used to work but appears to not work anymore.</li>
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<p dir="auto">I don't really know anything about that.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Then, also Mailmate seems to have some spam fighting logic in it?</p>
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<p dir="auto">No, MailMate can integrate with SpamSieve, but built-in MailMate only supports image blocking as a general security measure (to avoid being tracked). This is configurable in the Security preferences pane.</p>
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<p dir="auto">I want to have control about that kind of stuff but I don't even understand it ...</p>
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<p dir="auto">Let me know if you have specific questions.</p>
<p dir="auto">To make the above work well in MailMate then you can define a smart mailbox showing flagged Inbox messages. This your “Act On” mailbox. You can also add a condition to the regular mailbox to not show flagged messages if you want that Inbox Zero feeling. (This part is not possible on iOS.)</p>
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<li>One idea I had for a while was to just forward all accounts to a single gmail adress. I could then implement my "newsletter/groups/other" conditions as server-side filters. In Mailmate (and probably on the phone) I would then use the "Archive" button whenever I used to delete messages. I would lose my beloved "act upon but not right now" functionality.</li>
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<p dir="auto">Filtering on the server is always a good idea, but I don't think you should forward to a single account. Are these filters not mostly account-specific anyways?</p>
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<p dir="auto">Nice to have features:</p>
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<li>Have everything prepared to switch the gmail accounts to a self hosted or more trustworthy, no-bullshit mail server.</li>
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<p dir="auto">The approach described would work with any IMAP server.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Please, email-pros, give me a few hints to get me back on track or point me to manuals/whatever that tell me how email (and in particular IMAP) is supposed to be used. I want a better email life.</p>
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<p dir="auto">Oops, I'm definitely not the right one to ask then. I've created an email client to help others handle their email, but I somehow ended up with more than 600 act-on emails in my Inbox (most of them from the past 6 months) :-)</p>
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Benny</p>
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